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BHOP 06-04-2014 17:43

Record Number of Replays in Elims?
 
Just wondering if people would like to chime in on the maximum number of replays you have seen in eliminations. Since they are replays there are no official records of them, but I was just wondering since this weekend in Las Vegas was crazy for us.

At the Las Vegas Regional, the Semi Finals 2 took 6 matches to decide the winner.

Match 1: A cameraman blocked a ball resulting in a "field fault"
Match 2: 1717 didn't move for 30 seconds blamed on field
Match 3: Good. 1717 still didn't move, but blamed on bot. 2122/399/1725 win.
Match 4: Good. 399 blew the 120A breaker, 1717/3476/687 win.
Match 5: 399 tips onto 2 balls, dead ball confusion ensued, match stops early.
Match 6: Good. 1717/3476/687 win.

It was crazy, and our 120A blew because of the tough back to back matches and our 6 cim drive... Has anyone ever played more than 6 in Elims?

It was really tough on the electrical systems...

Knufire 06-04-2014 17:52

Re: Record Number of Replays in Elims?
 
The finals of IRI 2010 went to 5 or 6 matches, don't remember off the top of my head. That was due to ties though, not field faults.

Calvin Hartley 06-04-2014 18:18

Re: Record Number of Replays in Elims?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BHOP (Post 1370020)
It was crazy, and our 120A blew because of the tough back to back matches and our 6 cim drive... Has anyone ever played more than 6 in Elims?

It was really tough on the electrical systems...

Isn't there supposed to be a certain amount of time between matches to give robots a break? Or is this different for replays? Would someone with knowledge beyond mine please enlighten me?

Koko Ed 06-04-2014 18:19

Re: Record Number of Replays in Elims?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BHOP (Post 1370020)
Just wondering if people would like to chime in on the maximum number of replays you have seen in eliminations. Since they are replays there are no official records of them, but I was just wondering since this weekend in Las Vegas was crazy for us.

At the Las Vegas Regional, the Semi Finals 2 took 6 matches to decide the winner.

Match 1: A cameraman blocked a ball resulting in a "field fault"
Match 2: 1717 didn't move for 30 seconds blamed on field
Match 3: Good. 1717 still didn't move, but blamed on bot. 2122/399/1725 win.
Match 4: Good. 399 blew the 120A breaker, 1717/3476/687 win.
Match 5: 399 tips onto 2 balls, dead ball confusion ensued, match stops early.
Match 6: Good. 1717/3476/687 win.

It was crazy, and our 120A blew because of the tough back to back matches and our 6 cim drive... Has anyone ever played more than 6 in Elims?

It was really tough on the electrical systems...

Was the camera man official media or team media?

Knufire 06-04-2014 18:20

Re: Record Number of Replays in Elims?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Calvin Hartley (Post 1370041)
Isn't there supposed to be a certain amount of time between matches to give robots a break? Or is this different for replays? Would someone with knowledge beyond mine please enlighten me?

6 minute field timeout. I wasn't watching Vegas but I imagine that's what they did.

BHOP 06-04-2014 18:29

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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1370044)
Was the camera man official media or team media?

Official Media.

I guess the way I understood it was refs are apart of the field so if they redirect it...o well. But if anyone else redirects it, and it affects the match, field fault.

I'd say 6 minutes in between sounds about what it was but everyone's motors were cooking! We took a timeout to change our 120A breaker.

Mk.32 06-04-2014 18:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1370044)
Was the camera man official media or team media?

I believe official media, had a big tripod + professional news camera. Knocked a ball that was most likely going to hit his camera, and his tripod was on the HP zone.

There was a LOT of time between matches due to the FTA/CSAs figuring out what was going on and the refs talking. The 6 min back to back timing was meet and probably exceeded.

alexander.h 06-04-2014 18:31

Re: Record Number of Replays in Elims?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knufire (Post 1370024)
The finals of IRI 2010 went to 5 or 6 matches, don't remember off the top of my head. That was due to ties though, not field faults.

Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question, but what is "IRI"? Anyways, as I've heard, there is no such thing as a dumb question ... unless the person asking the question is dumb.

Mk.32 06-04-2014 18:33

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Originally Posted by alexander.h (Post 1370056)
Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question, but what is "IRI"? Anyways, as I've heard, there is no such thing as a dumb question ... unless the person asking the question is dumb.

Indian Robotics invitational, one of the biggest off seasons over the summer usually in July. Teams have to apply and get accepted to get in. http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/

Koko Ed 06-04-2014 18:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alexander.h (Post 1370056)
Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question, but what is "IRI"? Anyways, as I've heard, there is no such thing as a dumb question ... unless the person asking the question is dumb.

IRI is an off season Invitational held @ Lawrence North High School in Indianapolis, Indiana.
It's basically the FIRST All Star Game.
Think the Championship in concentrated form.

Koko Ed 06-04-2014 18:35

Re: Record Number of Replays in Elims?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mk.32 (Post 1370055)
I believe official media, had a big tripod + professional news camera. Knocked a ball that was most likely going to hit his camera, and his tripod was on the HP zone.

There was a LOT of time between matches due to the FTA/CSAs figuring out what was going on and the refs talking. The 6 min back to back timing was meet and probably exceeded.

I think were gonna have that issue @ MSC with the TV crew taping the event for the public TV broadcast.

alexander.h 06-04-2014 18:35

Re: Record Number of Replays in Elims?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mk.32 (Post 1370058)
Indian Robotics invitational, one of the biggest off seasons over the summer usually in July. Teams have to apply and get accepted to get in. http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1370059)
IRI is an off season Invitational held @ Lawrence North High School in Indianapolis, Indiana.
It's basically the FIRST All Star Game.
Think the Championship in concentrated form.

Thanks! I can't seem to find any matches archived on Watch First Now ... do you know where I could find past matches?

Jared 06-04-2014 18:39

Re: Record Number of Replays in Elims?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BHOP (Post 1370020)
Just wondering if people would like to chime in on the maximum number of replays you have seen in eliminations. Since they are replays there are no official records of them, but I was just wondering since this weekend in Las Vegas was crazy for us.

We didn't get to six matches, but at Groton we played a match, were told we had to replay, played the match again, were told it didn't count again, then played (and won) twice. We were never told why.

It is really stressful on the robots, playing these matches back to back. We weren't prepared with batteries and spares to be out on the field this much, especially after the morning where we had two more replayed matches. I know for us there was at least one set of matches where there was much less than a 6 minute field timeout. I like these replays because we ended up with an additional 5 matches for our team in eliminations and qualifications and a bunch of driver practice with our alliance that really helped our elimination alliance make it to the finals.

Mk.32 06-04-2014 18:41

Re: Record Number of Replays in Elims?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1370061)
I think were gonna have that issue @ MSC with the TV crew taping the event for the public TV broadcast.

Yeah with the chances of balls going anywhere, you might want them to stand back father then usual and keep them in the loop about what to do if a ball heads there way.


http://www.ihigh.com/school27076/index.html Should have some old matches.

alexander.h 06-04-2014 18:43

Re: Record Number of Replays in Elims?
 
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Originally Posted by Mk.32 (Post 1370067)
http://www.ihigh.com/school27076/index.html Should have some old matches.

Thanks for the videos! I'll take a look at them...


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