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The wording might be slightly different, but I just looked at a pair of them on Saturday. |
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I'd like to join the chorus of posters in commending Frank for an excellent decision and a gracious admission of mistake. It takes quite the person to own up to something like this, publicly. What a guy.
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I'd prefer HQ focus their efforts on minimizing the controllable root causes that lead to such transgressions occurring. That is the kind of "freebie" I think all teams would genuinely appreciate! |
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Thanks to Frank and FRC HQ for doing what they could to "try and make it right" for 1323. I'm not going to lie, I was more upset than I have ever been at an FRC event leaving SVR Saturday afternoon (including after Einstein 2012). While this update doesn't completely wash out the bad taste in my mouth, it was definitely the right thing to do for 1323.
I'm really excited for 1323 to be coming to champs. Their robot and team is just plain awesome and they will make some noise in whatever division they end up in. Go Madtown! |
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(I see Travis already handled it...) |
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Thanks for the info on this. I had figured they were easy to confuse, only a one word difference.
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---- I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can see people coming out of the shadows saying "well we had a bad call in Qual 21 and we would have won and that would have moved us up 7 spots in the ranking and the number one seed would have chosen us and we would be going to worlds...." +1 for Frank, did some research, talked to all the participants and made the best repair he could. Sorry team xyz you missed on getting off the wait list, but who knows, maybe you are now #1 on the 2015 wait list. |
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A great response from Frank. Great news for 1323 as well.
Hate to mention that negative side, but Travis does raise a point that selective addressing of issues can lead to a very slippery slope, and sets a bad precedent. |
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All the way back in 2008 the entire finalists alliance at SVR were given Champs spots. |
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"Zero-tolerance" polices are zero-thought policies specifically because they strip the adjudicating body of the ability to apply judgment and reason to the situation, and that makes them bad policy. So yes, HQ should do everything they can to minimize all situations wherein such calls have to be made in the first place, but when those transgressions occur, the use of judgment to arrive at the most desirable (or least undesirable) outcome is not a slippery slope, it's necessary for sane and reasonable policy. |
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HQ calls were made in both situations, and in SVR's case, it was acknowledged as a mistake and remedied (A wildcard handed out, and a change in the backup coupon system). I would like to see something similar happen for Orlando. Not necessarily a wildcard being distributed, but FIRST acknowledging something went wrong, and how the plan to prevent it from happening again (as D.Allerd and Travis said). |
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Except nothing went wrong in the Orlando situation on HQ's side. The robot's competed illegally and were, rightfully, red carded. That's the rules from HQ's perspective. Now, as to whether they were told it was ok or not... that's an entirely different issue but is NOT at HQ's level. It's at the level of the LRI. |
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What sounds worse: a LRI knocks a team out or HQ knocks a team out? |
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