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Justin Montois 08-04-2014 15:10

[FRCTop25.com] Final 2014 Rankings LIVE tonight at 9PM!
 
It's crazy to think how fast the Regional/District regular season has come and gone. We've seen nearly 10,000 matches played and each one of them help write the story of the Final Top 25 of the season.

Tonight, at 9PM EST we will be counting down the FINAL Top 25 of the season. We had nearly 200 voters this week and the list is an impressive snapshot of some of the best teams to have played Aerial Assist.

You can catch the show at www.new.livestream.com/frctop25

We we also spend some time talking about the upcoming District Championships and discussing some of the trending topics in the FRC community. If you'd like us to talk about something in particular, post in thie thread or shoot us an email and we'll be happy to discuss it.

Mike and I are really looking forward to the show tonight and we hope you are too. If you could help us out by spreading the word on Facebook, Twitter and among your teammates we would appreciate that.

We'll see you tonight!

Justin Lawrence 08-04-2014 18:09

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It's amazing how fast things go by. I can't believe that championships are in two weeks. This year is not over yet, but it's been really fun this year. I know for a fact my team has worked so hard and all of our hard work has payed off. I also know that other teams have worked extremely hard as well. It's unbelievable how great FRC ROBOTICS is. I can't wait to leave for championships!!!!!!:]

Yipyapper 08-04-2014 22:56

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Great show.

Can you guys make sure we get Aaron Koscielski as the Curie Division Expert for the division preview show? Those were good times.

Mike Starke 08-04-2014 23:19

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The archive is up! Head on over to https://new.livestream.com/FRCTop25/events/2906433 to watch it! Thanks everyone!

Thad House 08-04-2014 23:35

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You guys really missed a lot of teams in the PNW. 1425 was one of the only 2 teams to win 2 districts in the PNW this year. 4911 did amazingly this year, and won EI as a rookie, which I don't think I've ever seen before. If you run down the list of rankings we have ALOT of new up and coming 1st, 2nd and 3rd year teams in the PNW, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a decent chunk of them do well at worlds this year. 6 of the top 12 teams in our rankings are 1-3 year old teams, with a few chairmans and EI's among those teams.

Stephi Rae 09-04-2014 00:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad House (Post 1371496)
You guys really missed a lot of teams in the PNW. 1425 was one of the only 2 teams to win 2 districts in the PNW this year. 4911 did amazingly this year, and won EI as a rookie, which I don't think I've ever seen before. If you run down the list of rankings we have ALOT of new up and coming 1st, 2nd and 3rd year teams in the PNW, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a decent chunk of them do well at worlds this year. 6 of the top 12 teams in our rankings are 1-3 year old teams, with a few chairmans and EI's among those teams.

I know you're not saying anything because you don't want to toot your own horn, but 4488 ShockWave leads the PNW district in points, and it is not by accident. They came out strong and only got better, winning two district events and a District Chairman's Award as a second year team. I would say with confidence that they're the best robot going into the PNW DCMP.

PayneTrain 09-04-2014 00:25

Re: [FRCTop25.com] Final 2014 Rankings LIVE tonight at 9PM!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad House (Post 1371496)
You guys really missed a lot of teams in the PNW. 1425 was one of the only 2 teams to win 2 districts in the PNW this year. 4911 did amazingly this year, and won EI as a rookie, which I don't think I've ever seen before. If you run down the list of rankings we have ALOT of new up and coming 1st, 2nd and 3rd year teams in the PNW, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a decent chunk of them do well at worlds this year. 6 of the top 12 teams in our rankings are 1-3 year old teams, with a few chairmans and EI's among those teams.

FRCTop25 does have a documented East Coast bias, but I don't think they control voting. However, I think yo ucould say any bias comes from the fact that they are from the upstate NY area and therefore know more and that could influence viewership.

Yipyapper 09-04-2014 00:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1371522)
FRCTop25 does have a documented East Coast bias, but I don't think they control voting. However, I think yo ucould say any bias comes from the fact that they are from the upstate NY area and therefore know more and that could influence viewership.

Voting is done entirely by the community, not Mike and Justin.

BrendanB 09-04-2014 00:46

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Mike and Justin have said plenty of times the rankings are based on who votes and regional bias will happen based on who votes. It seems to me that more people vote who live in Canada or watch more Canadian events as evidenced by the fact that 8 of the 25 teams are Canadians. All of these Canadian teams (and more) are amazing this year and can hold their own but unless more teams from your area vote the more other biases will be present.

In the past I know New England hasn't been well represented but I am so excited to see 125 finish out an amazing season as a member of the Top 25 club! I wish we could have seen 195 & 177 up there as well!

All in all, there are just too many good teams to justify who makes the Top 25 and who doesn't.

Patrick Flynn 09-04-2014 07:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad House (Post 1371496)
You guys really missed a lot of teams in the PNW. 1425 was one of the only 2 teams to win 2 districts in the PNW this year. 4911 did amazingly this year, and won EI as a rookie, which I don't think I've ever seen before. If you run down the list of rankings we have ALOT of new up and coming 1st, 2nd and 3rd year teams in the PNW, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a decent chunk of them do well at worlds this year. 6 of the top 12 teams in our rankings are 1-3 year old teams, with a few chairmans and EI's among those teams.

I think a lot of the reasons we miss these teams are very similar to the reasons we have been called out in the past for missing MAR teams.
First it is very hard for us or nearly impossible to look at a list of teams and know who everyone is. Without seeing them perform all season I couldn't tell you the difference between a Dozer bot and the next 2056. Numbers are just numbers sure I can look at who has the most points but that doesn't tell a good story.

Second there is a lack of video footage in a viewable location. MAR seems to have the same issue. I went looking for some match videos to see what teams had done, and simply couldn't find any, this may totally be my fault for not looking in the right location. There is nothing better than being able to watch what a team did on the field and it makes it much easier to speak too. FiM has knocked this out of the park with their instant YouTube upload.

Third as PayneTrain pointed out we know the east coast teams better. At some point in our careers we have competed with them or against them. This gives us some better insight into how they function.

We are always looking to help better covering these west coast teams. If you have insights or videos we should be watching drop us an email. We are always hoping to better cover each region but need some more help in doing so.

Link07 09-04-2014 07:35

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^ Just for future reference, MAR matches are actually pretty well documented by Team 1676 on their Youtube. They have full match footage of all of the matches from Mt. Olive, Clifton, and Bridgewater, as well as the MAR Championship this weekend probably. Full archived streams of Hatboro and Chestnut Hill can also be found on Mid-Atlantic Robotics youtube. I don't know if Lenape was archived or not by anybody.

Drennael 09-04-2014 08:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Link07 (Post 1371577)
as well as the MAR Championship this weekend probably...I don't know if Lenape was archived or not by anybody.

1676 will be posting all of our MAR Championship match footage closely following the event. We try to archive all of the competitions that we go to, since we know that lack of footage in MAR has been a problem in the past. (Perhaps putting the team numbers in the description box would make it easier to find?) Lenape-Seneca footage can be found here, on the Iron Devils (1647) Fans' page. For future reference, most of this footage can be found by searching the event name on YouTube.

Hallry 09-04-2014 08:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Link07 (Post 1371577)
^ Just for future reference, MAR matches are actually pretty well documented by Team 1676 on their Youtube. They have full match footage of all of the matches from Mt. Olive, Clifton, and Bridgewater, as well as the MAR Championship this weekend probably.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drennael (Post 1371591)
1676 will be posting all of our MAR Championship match footage closely following the event. We try to archive all of the competitions that we go to, since we know that lack of footage in MAR has been a problem in the past.

^ What they said :D . You'll be able to find our full-field match footage (and also videos of Alliance Selections and the Awards Ceremonies) from the 2014 MAR Champs after the event on 1676's YouTube Channel here: http://www.youtube.com/user/Team1676.

Thad House 09-04-2014 12:02

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It took a few weeks, but currently most of the week 4,5 and 6 matches are posted on Washington First Robotics's youtube channel located here https://www.youtube.com/user/FIRSTWAVideo
I believe the PNW Championship will be posted there as well.

Lil' Lavery 09-04-2014 16:18

Re: [FRCTop25.com] Final 2014 Rankings LIVE tonight at 9PM!
 
When will the rankings be posted to the website? Does anyone know what they were?

Nathan Rossi 09-04-2014 16:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1371766)
When will the rankings be posted to the website? Does anyone know what they were?

You can find them on the "Rankings" tab. I believe the week 6 results are the final rankings. http://www.frctop25.com/rankings2014/

Alpha Beta 09-04-2014 16:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1371766)
When will the rankings be posted to the website? Does anyone know what they were?

They're up.

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Rank        Team Number        Team Name        Points        First Place Votes
                               
1        254        The Cheesy Poofs        3327        67
2        2056        OP Robotics        2594        3
3        1114        Simbotics        2526        5
4        118        Robonauts        2467        6
5        33        Killer Bees        2304        5
6        148        Robowranglers        1719        2
7        67        The HOT Team        1691        2
8        1986        Team Titanium        1527        6
9        16        Bomb Squad        1517        6
10        971        Spartan Robotics        1451        7
11        624        CRyptonite        1218        1
12        610        The Coyotes        1184        3
13        1241        THEORY6        1155        8
14        469        Las Guerrillas        988        0
15        1678        Citrus Circuits        943        1
16        1477        Texas Torque        929        0
17        987        HIGHROLLERS        862        0
18        359        Hawaiian Kids        843        0
19        125        NUTRONS        754        2
20        1285        The Big Bang        699        5
21        368        Team Kika Mana        618        2
22        233        The Pink Team        573        0
23        4039        MakeShift Robotics        547        1
24        3683        Team Dave        545        1
25        188        Blizzard        478        1


Joe Ross 09-04-2014 16:39

Re: [FRCTop25.com] Final 2014 Rankings LIVE tonight at 9PM!
 
What were the teams that received a first place vote, but did not make the top 25? It looks like there should be a bunch.

Patrick Flynn 10-04-2014 18:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Ross (Post 1371781)
What were the teams that received a first place vote, but did not make the top 25? It looks like there should be a bunch.

Joe, I just counted there were 21 teams that received first place votes but did not show up in the top 25.


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