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instantcake 10-04-2014 15:44

Mecanum wheel intake club
 
Piggy-backing on a few recent threads about "clubs", which teams have used mecanum wheels to collect/intake the ball? I have noticed a few teams using mecanum wheels on their intake, including:
1986 Team Titanium
my own team:Spectrum 3847
And team 2587 the Discobots

Who else has used these wheels to intake the ball?

Abhishek R 10-04-2014 15:49

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I think 180 does.

JohnFogarty 10-04-2014 15:52

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Originally Posted by Abhishek R (Post 1372174)
I think 180 does.

Quoted for truth.

Jetweb 10-04-2014 16:26

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We had a noticeable improvement in our intake after adding mecanum's in Orlando.

Just going to leave this here:


JohnFogarty 10-04-2014 17:04

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#MecanumsonEinstien

Chris is me 10-04-2014 17:11

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We switched to mecanums on the intake shortly before our first regional and never looked back.

A significant amount of design and prototyping time was spent trying to perfect geometry which would allow for a ball to center itself inside our claw. We tried to get the ball to roll into the claw from as many possible angles as we could. On bag day with blue Banebots wheels, we got the ball to end up in the robot rolled in from about 50 degrees off center in either direction.

We did encounter some minor problems. The competition intake would get the ball in the claw, but between some geometry changes and the location d the punch we could not center the ball in the claw as quickly as we wanted. This was the primary motivation for the change, but extra pickup was also a nice factor.

Once we switched to mecanums, the ball could enter the intake from literally any angle, including completely sideways (90+ degrees off center) and the ball would end up centered in the intake in less than a second. The mecanums had just as good of a grip as the Banebots wheels. We left two small traction wheels on in the center of the claw which actually provide the grip on the ball once properly seated, so we didn't compromise our ability to hold the ball. All in all, it's probably the single best upgrade we've made, at least in terms of effort to reward ratio.

Mecanums on the intake work. Use them!

Andrew Schreiber 10-04-2014 17:14

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1372221)
We switched to mecanums on the intake shortly before our first regional and never looked back.

A significant amount of design and prototyping time was spent trying to perfect geometry which would allow for a ball to center itself inside our claw. We tried to get the ball to roll into the claw from as many possible angles as we could. On bag day with blue Banebots wheels, we got the ball to end up in the robot rolled in from about 50 degrees off center in either direction.

We did encounter some minor problems. The competition intake would get the ball in the claw, but between some geometry changes and the location d the punch we could not center the ball in the claw as quickly as we wanted. This was the primary motivation for the change, but extra pickup was also a nice factor.

Once we switched to mecanums, the ball could enter the intake from literally any angle, including completely sideways (90+ degrees off center) and the ball would end up centered in the intake in less than a second. The mecanums had just as good of a grip as the Banebots wheels. We left two small traction wheels on in the center of the claw which actually provide the grip on the ball once properly seated, so we didn't compromise our ability to hold the ball. All in all, it's probably the single best upgrade we've made, at least in terms of effort to reward ratio.

Mecanums on the intake work. Use them!

Told ya...

Chris is me 10-04-2014 17:23

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Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1372224)
Told ya...

Your team number's on the robot for a reason, buddy.

IndySam 10-04-2014 18:05

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We totally copied Spectrum as soon as we saw their reveal video. Never looked back. Thanks.

Bryan1625 11-04-2014 07:35

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This is the one and hopefully only time 1625 has mecanum on our bot :rolleyes: Hill Toppers do as well

AllenGregoryIV 11-04-2014 07:49

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Originally Posted by Bryan1625 (Post 1372480)
This is the one and hopefully only time 1625 has mecanum on our bot :rolleyes: Hill Toppers do as well

We started calling them collector wheels. We try to avoid using the m word it has such a bad reputation. "Collector Wheels" let us sleep easy at night. :)

Ernst 11-04-2014 09:04

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Originally Posted by Bryan1625 (Post 1372480)
This is the one and hopefully only time 1625 has mecanum on our bot :rolleyes: Hill Toppers do as well

1732 checking in to the Mecanum intake club. We have mecanums on the corners and some grippy VEXPro wheels closer to the middle. We started with just the grippy wheels but really like the mecanums. Thanks Spectrum!

Dewmark 11-04-2014 10:23

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We added mecum wheels to our intake at New-york Tech Valley.

I believe 2590 Nemesis also has a mecum intake.

Riverdance 11-04-2014 11:06

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Through watching 1986's robot reveal video and judging on how well they've done this season, my teammate and I are fangirling. HARD. We know mecanum has its drawbacks on a drive train, but on a pickup it's genius. Very well done.

Andrew Schreiber 11-04-2014 11:15

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1372226)
Your team number's on the robot for a reason, buddy.

I thought that was for the CF spring powered linear shooter :P


125's mecanum collector was originally a joke. But then we found that packaging a CD7 intake was a pain in the butt and thought, wonder if it'll work. Turns out it does. Really well.

mott 11-04-2014 11:17

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Team 1619 has had mecanums on our intake since before our first event and they have been awesome. Especially given our intake structure, they increase our collection "zone" by over a foot!

XaulZan11 11-04-2014 11:19

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Originally Posted by ZehP (Post 1372500)
Thanks Spectrum!

And 1986 and 1625. :) I'm not sure who had them first or where exactly our inspiration came from, but seeing 1986 and talking with 1625 also played a role in our decision to try them out and I'm very glad we did.

AllenGregoryIV 11-04-2014 12:00

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Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 1372545)
And 1986 and 1625. :) I'm not sure who had them first or where exactly our inspiration came from, but seeing 1986 and talking with 1625 also played a role in our decision to try them out and I'm very glad we did.

From what we can tell, we were the first ones to publish there use on intakes. We're also pretty sure people were using them either before us or right around the same time. I wouldn't be surprised if they were independently developed by 4 or 5 teams (3847, 125, 1986, not sure how long the list is).

Blackphantom91 11-04-2014 14:47

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Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1372567)
From what we can tell, we were the first ones to publish there use on intakes. We're also pretty sure people were using them either before us or right around the same time. I wouldn't be surprised if they were independently developed by 4 or 5 teams (3847, 125, 1986, not sure how long the list is).

I think it all happened for most around the same time. We knew other top teams would have it we were just curious on how many? I really expected it to catch on for teams even if their design constraints didn't fit it necessarily. It all just kind of came together for the best! :]

AllenGregoryIV 11-04-2014 15:18

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Originally Posted by Blackphantom91 (Post 1372619)
I really expected it to catch on for teams even if their design constraints didn't fit it necessarily.

I'm surprised that more teams haven't done it yet. They're a pretty cheap way to upgrade any wheel collector.


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