Galileo 2014
 

Here is the 2014 Galileo Division courtesy of Ty.

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4476 is looking forward to mixing things up on Galileo this year!

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Hey well well....Hope were with you guys (2363)and not against you.

Guess we have something to talk about with 384 on the bus.

I see a lot of familiar teams.

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Lots of great teams and tons of MAR teams. Looks pretty tough.

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2481 is super excited to be returning to Galileo this year! Good luck to everyone and we'll see you on the field!

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Oh man 4488 is ready to come light up Galileo. Lets make it 4 in a row.

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1334 is extremely pumped about playing at Championship this year. Good luck to all on Galileo!

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Also, the PNW is well represented. By my count, I see 7. 488, 955, 1318, 2471, 2980, 4060 and 4488. Let's finally bring home a division and Einstein for the PNW.

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5148 is thrilled to be making our first appearance at Championship and can't wait to see all the superb teams in the Galileo division!!

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4991 is proud to be the new guy at this party, we even brought our Robot!

On a personal note, this will be the 5th time I've been to Galileo with a 3rd team, I think I have a favorite.

GALI

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I count 8 Canadians from a cursary glance.

188
771
1310
1334
3360
3683
4476
4917

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3316 is looking forward to play! Can't wait to see some of the best teams around!

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FRC558 is ready to bring some New England flavor to the mix, happy to be playing with some old friends, are ready to make new ones.

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The RoboBees are ready and excited. See everyone in a week!

Safe travels.

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Hey, rooks! Looking forward to the return of the vac! ;) If you need any assistance or advice on what's going on amongst the massive amount of chaos (that can typically be among the first impressions when you get to championships), just stop by our pit and we'll do our best to help you guys out. Good luck and we'll see you there!

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Lots of MAR teams on Galileo--
193
225
303
365
869
1218

225 is looking forward to seeing everyone there!

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1153 is psyched to make our first appearance on Galileo. It's gonna be a great division.

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Breakdown of Galileo by max OPR:

More details to follow in a white paper

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Thanks! The vacuum is much improved over the regional (and so is the drive team)! See you next week!

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Missed seeing you in MN this year Jeff... but at least our teams will be together at champs!

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I'm amused that Martians and More Martians are in Galileo. And that 3 of the 4 Leoni teams are here (70, 494, 857). And this will be the third event where 862 is next to 857 in the pits (Esky, MSC, Galileo).

And... that ONE team!

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Triple Helix is looking forward to joining our friends from 384, 1610, and 1885 in representing VA in the Galileo Division this year. It will be great to compete with/against teams we have not had the opportunity to meet before.

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BX is excited to be in Galileo with so many great teams! Looking forward to seeing old friends and meeting new friends!
LEO

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3937 is proud and honored to be back in the Championships. It is great to be with such outstanding and decorated teams. This is going to be very exciting with the overall depth of the competition on our field! Good luck to all the teams this year and "Let's Go Galileo"!

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Team 955 is super excited to be in this amazing division! Good Luck to all team, and Lets GO PNW!

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2052 Knightkrawler is ecstatic to be in Galileo this year! It will be fun to see some familiar faces (Like our championship elim partners from last year 225)! It will also be great to compete with some of our Minnesota friends 2177 The Robettes and 4536 MinuteBots :D

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Been crunching some numbers, Galileo looks like it has a really good lineup! Here are the average and median (top) OPRs for the division. Got OPR data from stingray27's Advanced OPR and Statistics

Average: 58.72372561
Median: 62.18030843

To put this in perspective, Galileo has the second highest average OPR this year, and the highest median. But of course we can't just look at data to see who's gonna win. Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing all the great matches that'll be played on the field!

(for comparison)
Archimedes
Average: 54.2554821
Median: 54.67173343

Newton
Average: 58.91559315
Median: 56.44185218

Curie
Average: 57.49642157
Median: 48.92273601

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Galileo Representation at a Glance

99 Teams, 4 Countries, 37 States/Providences/Districts/Administrative Regions

USA 86
Canada 10
Israel 1
Mexico 1

California 10
Michigan 10
Ontario 8
Texas 5
Washington 5
Virginia 4
Pennsylvania 4
Missouri 4

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Aces High is excited to return to Championships.

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You are missing 1 Kansas. 1108

Edit: I now see you were ranking by most attendees. My mistake

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Galileo 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Event Scouting

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...EE&usp=sharing

Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns J-R.

If you have questions about filling out the document please don't hesitate to ask.

Thanks,
-Clinton-

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I'm trying to add our information, and its telling us its set to view only.

Also, what is the rating criteria for J-R?

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Few questions:
Rank 1-10 means what?
Kiss Pass means what?
0 is no 1 is yes but what is H?
and Finally I think you left in the Matches tab from something else

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Fixed.

Sorry about that.

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Could you give a quick definition for what you're asking for in each column and a key for what you'd like the inputs to be? I'm assuming binary for most, but I notice an 'H' under truss (guessing that means to [H]uman player). Just want to make sure we can all avoid entering anything incorrectly. For example, what's your definition of a 'kiss pass' or a 'layup'? Just want to make sure everyone's on the same page as we enter information.

Thanks for setting this up! Should be a big help to all of our scout teams.

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We are extremely excited to attend our very first Championships and, hopefully, representing Indiana well.

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Rank 1-10 is basically a grouping for the 100 teams in the division it is based of OPR.

Top 10 Team = Group 10
11-20 = Group 9
etc

Kiss Pass = Bumper to Bumper Pass between robots (Does your intake have to come outside your FP to pass the ball off)

0 = No, 1 = Yes, and H = Truss to Human

Ignore the Matches Tab (now deleted) I used my 2013 version as a template.

Thanks,
-Clinton-

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Layup is a close shot near the 1 point goal and the goalie zone.

Kiss Pass = Bumper to Bumper Pass between robots (Does your intake have to come outside your FP to pass the ball off)

I will try to make a Key on a new tab.

Thanks,
-Clinton-

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Thanks for the clarification. That's what I was assuming, but you know what tends to happens when you assume... ;)

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I have added a Key/Glossary Tab to the Google Doc.

Also added "Auto Balls" Column for the Maximum Ball(s) your robot can do in Auton.

Thanks,
-Clinton-

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Thanks Clinton! Wasn't sure how to mark our kiss pass. Can you add another setting just for us? HAHA... seriously though, we can successfully receive but not pass.. I marked 1 and put in comments receive only... If you want to change it to a 0 that is ok too!

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45 is excited to return to the Galileo divisions. Certainly one of my favorite divisions. If anyone is in the business of trading shirts, I do have an extra 2014 TechnoKats shirt in Large that I would like to trade. PM me if there is any interest.

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Do you know of anything like this for the other divisions?

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could you add some more drive train columns like motor number, shifting ability, max/min speed

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I know 1114 has a big scouting sheet, but it doesn't give more robot info than OPR. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=128848

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Ok, thanks.

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Added a comment about TBA column being pointless and added 714 who is in our division but was not included on the sheet.

Edit: Looks like they were waitlisted and got in but i also added 5320 who were not on the sheet

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Waitlist

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Debbie,

I added the following to Kiss Pass:

0 = No, 1 = Yes Both(Give and Receive) G = Only Give, R = Only Receive

Thanks for the suggestion.

-Clinton-

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I added Drive Motors, Low Speed, and High Speed

If you only have one speed just put it in the Low Speed Column.

Thanks for the suggestion.

-Clinton-

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Could you add the guidelines at the top of the sheet? Not everyone is going to read the entire thread to find out what each letter means.

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A guy on my team showed me this video.




GALI-

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AYYOOOOO!

LOL love the video

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I have been guilty of that...

On topic, 4967 can't wait to compete with you guys!

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Thanks! You are awesome! Thanks for doing this! If there are a lot left and you would like, we can help you fill in this chart Wednesday.

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Could we change catch to "only if you have in competition". It's a far more useful piece of data given how scarce catches really are in competition.

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Personally, catch isn't only about catching a ball from a robot for points. Teams that have catch features can also be a good bot for inbounding from the human players.

Feel free to post the number of catches at an event in the comment section.

-Clinton-

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MOE is excited to be in the Galileo division with so many of our fellow MAR teams! Looks like we're in for some interesting and tough matches - especially with 4 robots on an alliance in elims now. Good luck to everyone!

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Although teams can be good at inbounding because they have a large loading area I don't necessarily think these are well correlated. A good inbounder needs to be able to quickly pass the ball out of its robot which is completely unrelated.

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Ohhh, man this is gonna be fun!
Let's keep the win streak rollin!

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The following Teams have no data or partial data on the Galileo Pre-Event Scouting Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...3h4d EE#gid=0

• 228
• 337
• 488 (3 Ball Auto but nothing else?)
• 714
• 766
• 869
• 884
• 1011
• 1266
• 1515
• 1756
• 1775
• 1885
• 2135
• 2177
• 2424
• 2642
• 2665
• 2974
• 2980
• 3103
• 3138
• 3191
• 3309
• 3480
• 4060
• 4176
• 4288
• 4719
• 4940
• 4965
• 4979
• 4985
• 5098
• 5137
• 5145
• 5320

The hope is by putting their number here, they might update the document. Please refer to the Key/Glossary Tab for any clarification.

Thanks,
-Clinton-

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Team 4536 is super excited to be in Galileo. The kids are excited to see all of the amazing robots up close. It will be particularly interesting to see 148, since 148's reveal video was the first that many of the kids saw. Also looking forward to the chance to play with the other MN teams 2052 and 2177.

One of my first thoughts upon looking at the attending teams list was, "awesome, we're right next to 4488!"

Out of curiosity, are we the only double-sided intake robot? I checked as many teams as I could, and I didn't see any others.

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Updated for Team 5012.

Galileo looks fun. Glad to be playing on the same field as friends on 2122, 973, and others!

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Our entire team is incredibly excited to be on Galileo with you all.

@ Inkling, 488 from PNW is also a double-sided intake robot. I'm sure our teams will get to know each other very well in our few days there :)

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Cool! I also noticed that 1756 has a double-sided intake, so we are not alone like I had originally thought.

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Team 4256 is excited! if there is an scouting or strategy in the works for our division we would like to contribute.

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I just updated our entry. I switched us from 3 ball to 2 ball auto because we haven't ever bothered to use the 3 ball auto in competition. Think of it like the secret menu at In and Out; it exists, but you'll have to ask nicely for us to try it. It's just not fast enough to warrant use at higher levels of play.

There's some chance our robot will be geared to go faster at CMP than it's been all season. We're playing with that change this weekend.

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I Would love to hear the Galileo Division singing this at some point.

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Preliminary match schedule is out. If it sticks, I like it alot. Plus if it sticks we are first match both Friday and Saturday. That would be fun.

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Click here for the Preliminary schedule, mentioned above. (Here's a link to Frank's blog post.)

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Predicted rankings based on max OPR:

Assist, Teleop, etc. points calculated by summing the assist, teleop, etc. OPRs of the 3 robots they play with for each match they play in.

The sub-OPRs for each team is from the regional the team scored their highest overall OPR at.

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Thanks for posting that Michael. Do you have postable data on each predicted match?

EDIT: Nevermind, just found your paper.

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I've updated a bit onto 4719's bot. There's a few unsure bits because of a massive clutch overhaul we did after our regionals; new parts = new specs.

The irregularities and unreliability of the clutch was one of the only reasons why our OPR is so low; We were out quite a bit trying to fix it. Now that we have newer CNC'd parts, we're praying it works better on the field and our specs change. Practice rounds have shown promise.

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10th best OPR in the division and can only pull a 3-7 curse you scheduling gods.

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The OPR predictor had us going like 5-7 and finishing 33rd in Boston. We went 9-3 and finished third. Take it for what it's worth. In this game OPR is not everything. Three bots, with good strategy, working together, can do what the OPR predictor says they can't.

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We're 11th and right there with you. But that's why they play the games.

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It's all about not getting penalties really, most of these matches should be within 1 cycle, especially if you're a high OPR bot and it says you'll lose.

I don't take OPR seriously this year after our match in Lansing where OPR had us losing by 100 pts, then we realized no one on the other team could actually score the ball.

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9th and we have 6-4.
As we found out at the Chesapeake regional OPR can be raised for teams that necessarily don't have that OPR if they have good qualification alliances.

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What we all have to keep in mind is that Championships is absolutely ridiculous. Nobody is really in control of their situation, not even the "power houses". In addition, this game is interesting in the way that unexpected things can happen. Nothing is really predictable.

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I added collumn T "Wheel/Tread". Please fill this out too! Examples are roughtop, mecanum, kop wheel, the various vex wheels, etc... Essentially looking for what kind of traction you have.

Thanks,
Adam

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Hi Galileo Partners,

Team 2471, Team Mean Machine is excited to be on Galileo. I ran some statistics and found that our strength of schedule is fairly average, ranking 61st hardest. I averaged our partners and our opposition using Ed Law's spreadsheet numbers for highest tournament OPR. The difficulty number is how many points higher your opponents are than your partners. Your own OPR is not included. Higher numbers represent a harder schedule. I see why Shockwave is happy with their schedule. :] Go PNW! You can find your results here:

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Please help in the hunt for pictures!
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...29#post1376429

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For goalie pole it is just 0 or 1, what do you want us to do to indicate we can block shots over the low goals as well?

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We just noticed theres a very large gap between our first match (Quals 9 at ~9:48 AM) to our second match (Quals 33 at ~1:12 PM) which is after lunch. Looks like if we discover somethings wrong in our first match (Which is unlikely) we'll definetly have time to fix it.

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I've been reading some of the posts...especially after the rankings based on OPR were posted and while its a nice thought...and i hope it happens....never say never.....OPR might be better suited for regionals and districts...but CMP being the wayit is always has been and can be very unpredictable. I really can't see predicting seedings based on OPR at CMP.

What OPR can't and doesn't tell you are things like what happens when a veteran driver gets sick and you put a timid rookie driver in...or if you lose communication during a match...or an alliance partner gets knocked over...or
your Power board goes out and you can't run in the next match while you fix it.

We've had things like this happen....
In our first year and our first year going to CMP we did pretty well after our regional at Va. But during our third match at CMP one of our joy sticks died on us....we didn't know why until later, but that was something going in we
didn't count on happening.

Last year we had a half decent robot and decided to try and improve it for CMP....well you know the old saying...if its not broke don't fix it....we ended up working almost the entire time at CMP to at least get it back to the way it was....well we started to work better in our last couple matches....and in our last match we thought we'd at least have a chance to win that one. We were with team 33...one of the "better" teams....the alliance had a plan...but during the match it fell apart and we didn't win that or any other match we had. Funny how our match schedule ranking is 100th....especially after coming in being ranked 100th in our division last year. Maybe First is giving us a break....who knows....

Even this year things happened we didn't expect....We went to Chesapeake and did pretty well. We were predicted to lose two matches though. A match we should have won we didn't and the one we were predicted to lose we won. In our second match on Saturday we fiqured we'd win it because we were doing good and we were with team 233 (yes that pink team from Florida)...We'll the first mistake was made even before the match started...and so were several others during the match. We ended up losing that match by only 6 points....Had we won it would have changed not only our seeding, but 233's...and that probably would have changed the outcome of eliminations at Chesapeake....

This is why i'm a bit leary of rankings by OPR.
like i said...i hope its true...but i'm prepared either way.

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FRC OPR suffers from small sample size and inability to normalize across regionals or even weeks of play. It's outright ridiculous to think that it means anything tangible when it comes to ranking teams in a Division.

To put it in a different perspective, which would we rather have: OPR or Youtube? There are 4 solid days between now and Qual Match 1, so there is almost no excuse to use OPR for most teams come Thursday.

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In all competitions people talk stats. It's a way to attempt to predict how well one team or another will do. So, while I agree with the statement above, there is no way to stop the reading of the crystal ball.

I do recommend that everyone watch youtube though. :)

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The attach PDF has every teams matches from the preliminary schedule by team each page of the report is its own team by number. Not sure if anyone will find it useful but wanted everyone to know Team 2642 - Pitt Pirates is looking forward to the competition on Galileo and wants to help everyone compete.

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One major thing to remember about OPR, is that it's a linear measure. When the game is non-linear (ie. Assists dependent upon robots) than OPR isn't a very useful metric. Last year was a decent use of OPR because the scoring progression was linear (Disks, goal, repeat, climb).

Our team uses OPR as a fun statistic to calculate, but we rely fully on our own scouting when creating a strategy and eliminations picks.

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What are outliers?

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People will much easier or much harder schedules relative to the majority of teams.

Welcome to the outliers club :(

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Outliers are teams that are outside the norm. They have significantly harder or easier match schedules than most teams. Statistics generally considers samples that are more than 2 standard deviations away from the average to be outliers. Since the standard deviation was 8.8 points, and the average was 0, any team with a difficulty higher than 17.6 points, or less than -17.6 points will qualify as outliers.::safety::

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Awesome. The exact reply I was hoping not to receive:(

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It's a fun club :)

Get your strategies ready, it's going to be a bumpy ride.

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I have created an alternate strength of schedule calculation. Essentially, it is the minimum OPR required of a team to go 8-2 in qualifications.

For me personally, I don't really care about rank unless the rank is <12. Since teams with records 8-2 or better will likely exclusively make up this group, I created a metric to see how hard it would be for a given team to achieve this record. Unsurprisngly, if this value is less than a team's OPR, then they are predicted to go 8-2 or better. If this value is greater than a team's OPR, then they can know approximately how hard they will have to work to go 8-2 or better.

average = 100.8
standard deviation = 26.5

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Hey you missed the Calgary gang 4719 and 4334.

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4334 is on Curie

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Yep I missed you and 4940.

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Wow. The difference from top to bottom is insane. Could you provide any more info about your process to get these numbers? When you are looking at team X, do you use max/world OPR for opponent Y's OPR, or is Y's OPR also based off what it takes to reach 8-2. This is a very interesting way to think about things, thanks for sharing it.

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My bad, what was I thinking. I know both our winning alliance partner 2013 and 4334 is on Curie.