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Woolly 16-04-2014 14:40
2014 Newton Division
 
Here's the non-finalized team list, courtesy BaselA:

Code:
16        Newton
25        Newton
58        Newton
78        Newton
111        Newton
120        Newton
133        Newton
190        Newton
314        Newton
330        Newton
340        Newton
341        Newton
364        Newton
368        Newton
525        Newton
597        Newton
610        Newton
612        Newton
623        Newton
687        Newton
811        Newton
846        Newton
868        Newton
910        Newton
971        Newton
997        Newton
1014        Newton
1114        Newton
1126        Newton
1138        Newton
1156        Newton
1261        Newton
1285        Newton
1294        Newton
1305        Newton
1507        Newton
1511        Newton
1574        Newton
1592        Newton
1640        Newton
1678        Newton
1710        Newton
1731        Newton
1735        Newton
1806        Newton
1817        Newton
1983        Newton
1986        Newton
2035        Newton
2054        Newton
2081        Newton
2085        Newton
2283        Newton
2415        Newton
2486        Newton
2522        Newton
2614        Newton
2877        Newton
3018        Newton
3065        Newton
3147        Newton
3238        Newton
3256        Newton
3260        Newton
3284        Newton
3313        Newton
3528        Newton
3539        Newton
3602        Newton
3824        Newton
3847        Newton
3880        Newton
3928        Newton
4039        Newton
4061        Newton
4069        Newton
4269        Newton
4355        Newton
4391        Newton
4464        Newton
4481        Newton
4500        Newton
4645        Newton
4905        Newton
4941        Newton
4949        Newton
4997        Newton
5010        Newton
5016        Newton
5052        Newton
5057        Newton
5124        Newton
5136        Newton
5171        Newton
5188        Newton
5190        Newton
5291        Newton
5310        Newton
5339        Newton
Lots of great teams in this division, and the social media swirling around the division says it's stacked. Good luck to all the teams!

Orion.DeYoe 16-04-2014 14:47
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
1114 and 1986 alliance anyone?

dodar 16-04-2014 14:48
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Orion.DeYoe (Post 1374728)
1114 and 1986 alliance anyone?
1114 and 368

RonnieS 16-04-2014 14:49
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
This should be a fun time :cool:

Justin Montois 16-04-2014 14:49
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Team 340 is pumped to be playing in Newton once again!

I feel like it's our 8th time in the last 10 years or so. Newton feels like home!

Excited to be playing with some awesome Rochester area teams as well as some of the greatest teams in the world!

IISSAACCC!!!

eddie12390 16-04-2014 14:52
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Team 3260 is excited to be with so many great teams for our first championship appearance.

Bob Steele 16-04-2014 15:04
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Skunk Works (1983) is looking forward to stinking it up again on Newton!

Looking forward to playing with many of our friends!

Nice to see that several teams that we have direct connections to are on the same field!! 190, 1806, 1678, 971

and all of our friends from the PNW 997, 2522, 3238, 4061, 1294


(Good luck to our District Alliance partners 1318 (Galileo) 4060 (Galileo) and 2907 (Archimedes) you guys rock!!!

Andrew Lawrence 16-04-2014 15:07
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
16 and 368 have to be allianced because those two swerves on the same side of the field will be dangerous.

Mike Rizzo 16-04-2014 15:11
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Lawrence (Post 1374765)
16 and 368 have to be allianced because those two swerves on the same side of the field will be dangerous.
16, 368, and 1640, all 3 are swerve, that would be insane to watch.

barn34 16-04-2014 15:12
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Rizzo (Post 1374773)
16, 368, and 1640, all 3 are swerve, that would be insane to watch.
my thoughts exactly!

we'll do our bests to duplicate this same effort on Galileo with 1717 and 2471. :)

Andrew Lawrence 16-04-2014 15:14
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Rizzo (Post 1374773)
16, 368, and 1640, all 3 are swerve, that would be insane to watch.
I would pay to see that alliance.

stingray27 16-04-2014 15:21
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Breakdown of Newton by max OPR:

Code:
1114        152.0597534
1986        119.0380519
16        107.6188357
3539        106.0154235
1507        103.7350637
910        101.0366156
610        100.504165
368        99.2284102
1731        97.60495813
971        94.54339219
1678        92.7257526
364        92.26588787
4039        91.76104022
3147        90.50182784
811        88.97607465
1261        88.88118159
58        88.05873478
3260        87.94093158
1138        86.57990548
1817        85.03123972
525        84.08878361
4061        82.68740055
3928        80.9305447
3824        79.71534516
3018        78.95943359
1592        78.37618673
846        77.72791439
3528        77.32462168
330        76.21449948
78        76.06449619
314        74.94851307
3284        73.1490712
2486        72.75170186
868        72.57738179
133        71.2766059
1511        70.41707834
25        68.55467375
1806        66.52361524
341        65.59892091
2085        65.05451417
2054        64.97493641
2283        63.26610868
1640        62.8261841
340        62.41984616
4069        61.94679238
3847        60.14383984
1126        59.69352989
2614        58.57076587
3238        56.44185218
2522        56.05268699
623        55.80929711
3602        55.16988981
1735        54.58211653
1285        54.36382892
190        53.8335219
3313        53.12183235
2877        52.67730663
111        52.64387897
2081        51.55417035
120        50.34178333
5188        49.40364472
997        48.54428087
1983        48.15848542
2035        47.8068509
4391        46.67132748
1574        46.31851898
2415        45.57294907
597        45.4491492
4269        41.85229643
5010        41.19879891
612        38.61543401
1156        36.19189244
1294        35.40954321
4464        33.33810314
3256        31.81011741
4997        31.56413267
5057        31.04253227
1014        30.8156623
5136        29.43409855
687        27.82278025
4941        27.79668714
1305        27.41613117
3065        26.58481871
4500        26.30634222
3880        24.61228096
5291        23.38592759
4481        23.19019836
5124        21.27005837
4355        20.04911485
5339        19.23785802
5190        18.3454185
4949        17.20024462
4905        15.49622501
1710        13.49598215
5052        10.8587637
5016        4.063629813
4645        0.999539506
More details to come in a white paper

ThunderousPrime 16-04-2014 15:34
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Anyone else notice that closeness in name and number between 971 Spartan Robotics and 997 Spartan Robotics? Let's hope no one gets confused like at IRI 2013 when 3476 and 3467 got mixed up during alliance selection.

AllenGregoryIV 16-04-2014 15:35
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stingray27 (Post 1374790)
Breakdown of Newton by max OPR:

More details to come in a white paper
Thanks for doing this. I think you're missing two teams.

5171 & 5310 don't seem to be on your list.

stingray27 16-04-2014 15:39
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1374811)
Thanks for doing this. I think you're missing two teams.

5171 & 5310 don't seem to be on your list.
I noticed this too... They didn't seem to have OPR's in my database so I believe I am missing a regional...

Link07 16-04-2014 15:55
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stingray27 (Post 1374815)
I noticed this too... They didn't seem to have OPR's in my database so I believe I am missing a regional...
5310 is the RAS winner from MAR

TikiTech 16-04-2014 15:57
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Wow great looking division!

I looked out our match list.. I noticed that we only have 8 matches?!?

I thought the schedule change was to accommodate a 10 match schedule.

Anyone else seeing this?

I know that more than likely the list will change when we arrive.

Just wondering.

Good luck to all the teams!

Aloha!

Jeff Pahl 16-04-2014 16:02
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TikiTech (Post 1374831)
Wow great looking division!

I looked out our match list.. I noticed that we only have 8 matches?!?

I thought the schedule change was to accommodate a 10 match schedule.

Anyone else seeing this?

I know that more than likely the list will change when we arrive.

Just wondering.

Good luck to all the teams!

Aloha!
Are you looking at last year's match list? This year's will not be released until sometime at the event.

TikiTech 16-04-2014 16:19
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
AHA!

That explains it.. I thought it looked familiar :yikes:

It was generated from the scheduler app. I was jumping the gun and didn't notice the disclaimer on the bottom..

My bad

Tyler_Kaplan 16-04-2014 16:24
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
I'm really happy to see that we get to play with both 1678 and 971. Our team had so much fun playing against their alliance in the finals of Sacramento this year, happy to see that we get to play together again. Let's bring the title home for California this year!

nuggetsyl 16-04-2014 16:43
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
I would love nothing more then to work with 16 again.

And I think if 16, 25, 1640 paired up it would be a killer alliance.

Woetie 16-04-2014 16:49
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Team Rembrandts from the Netherlandsis trilled to be on newton. Great so see so many top teams in this division. Does any1 have a list on how many nationalities are involved in Newton?

TKM.368 16-04-2014 16:51
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Woetie (Post 1374888)
Team Rembrandts from the Netherlandsis trilled to be on newton. Great so see so many top teams in this division. Does any1 have a list on how many nationalities are involved in Newton?
Code:
team_country
USA
Canada
Brazil
Israel
Mexico
Netherlands

Joe Ross 16-04-2014 16:51
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stingray27 (Post 1374815)
I noticed this too... They didn't seem to have OPR's in my database so I believe I am missing a regional...
1678's best OPR was over 100 at Silicon Valley. You might be missing it.

Woetie 16-04-2014 16:57
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TKM.368 (Post 1374893)
Code:
team_country
USA
Canada
Brazil
Israel
Mexico
Netherlands
Thanks, that is an cool list of countries. Only European team though, eventhough we are the only European team at Worlds.

ghesla 16-04-2014 17:39
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
What about 1884 from England?

Oh they are in Curie, nice :)

MrBydlon 16-04-2014 17:53
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
We made a little blog post with relevant links for divisions and Newton. We also made a list of all the teams that are from outside the US. We plan to make some more lists and other stuff in the next couple days.

Newton, Here We Come

Super excited to play with so many great teams!!

ks68 16-04-2014 17:56
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Average max OPR for Newton: 58.91559315

Average rank by max OPR for Newton: 893.3092784

Woetie 16-04-2014 18:03
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghesla (Post 1374923)
What about 1884 from England?

Oh they are in Curie, nice :)
Ow cool, didnt know they had made it aswell. I know for a fact that there are only 3 FRC teams in europe atm so glad to see we are not the only one who made it. We'll make sure more teams will spawn there though.

Jefferson 16-04-2014 18:10
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Lawrence (Post 1374765)
16 and 368 have to be allianced because those two swerves on the same side of the field will be dangerous.
I will admit to being 368-ignorant until reading this post. Now after watching some video, that robot seems very... familiar. Now I wonder how they got a spy in our design meetings from way out there. :D That's one nice looking robot. It would be an honor to rock the swerve with a team like that.

SciBorg Dave 16-04-2014 18:17
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
New to Championships.
4061 SciBorgs happy to be new on Newton.

Oblarg 16-04-2014 18:37
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
4464 is excited to be a part of Newton this year. We're extremely grateful to have the opportunity to experience Worlds for the second time in two years; it's a huge inspiration to our students and an absolute blast!

Also, Newton is totally the smartest of the scientists who have fields named after them. Just sayin'. ;)

Landonh12 16-04-2014 18:53
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
364 is excited to be back at worlds for the first time since 2011. We are SUPER excited to compete against all of these great teams in Newton. Good luck to all in St. Louis.

Bmarshall645 16-04-2014 18:57
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
cool were on Newtons division.

Henrique Schmit 16-04-2014 21:15
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
I am very excited to play with all the awesome teams at newton ;)

Gregor 16-04-2014 21:59
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThunderousPrime (Post 1374810)
Let's hope no one gets confused like at IRI 2013 when 3476 and 3467 got mixed up during alliance selection.
We don't talk about that.

Abhishek R 16-04-2014 22:44
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1375115)
We don't talk about that.
Only at IRI can an Einstein team with a 7 disk auto and great cycling capability be accidentally picked.

AllenGregoryIV 16-04-2014 23:01
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Alright so I'm copying this from Clinton Bolinger (#2337) from the Galileo thread.

Newton 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Scouting Database

Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns I-T.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgvyTH6hACHhdDNQckVmY3pCb1IxQWpzeWE0cEVCM Wc#gid=0

There is a glossary on the second sheet.

eddie12390 16-04-2014 23:06
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1375149)
Alright so I'm copying this from Clinton Bolinger (#2337) from the Galileo thread.

Newton 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Scouting Database

Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns I-T.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgvyTH6hACHhdDNQckVmY3pCb1IxQWpzeWE0cEVCM Wc#gid=0

There is a glossary on the second sheet.
I don't seem to have the ability to edit.

AllenGregoryIV 16-04-2014 23:11
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eddie12390 (Post 1375152)
I don't seem to have the ability to edit.
I just fixed it, it didn't take the first time I changed it. Sorry about that.

P.J. 16-04-2014 23:19
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1375149)
Alright so I'm copying this from Clinton Bolinger (#2337) from the Galileo thread.

Newton 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Scouting Database

Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns I-T.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgvyTH6hACHhdDNQckVmY3pCb1IxQWpzeWE0cEVCM Wc#gid=0

There is a glossary on the second sheet.
If we shoot somewhere between a layup and 18', which should we put yes for? Just so we all stay standard.

ThunderousPrime 16-04-2014 23:24
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Dumped the images i had already amassed. I will be digging for more.

jaykris284 17-04-2014 01:53
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
1261 is looking forward to a pretty competitive division this year at Championships. Newton has pretty good diversity in terms of robot ability and strengths. It should make for interesting qualification matches.

David Brinza 17-04-2014 02:29
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Abhishek R (Post 1375142)
Only at IRI can an Einstein team with a 7 disk auto and great cycling capability be accidentally picked.
That was an incredible #2 alliance - scoring over 250 points in IRI's last match and ending up finalists.

themccannman 17-04-2014 04:31
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Added to doc. Not 100% sure on drivetrain gearing, max height, or weight but they're close enough.

RoboChair 17-04-2014 04:53
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by themccannman (Post 1375222)
Added to doc. Not 100% sure on drivetrain gearing, max height, or weight but they're close enough.
Edited gearing, high gear is correct theoretical, low gear will be checked for final accuracy later today.

Travis Hoffman 17-04-2014 11:13
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
We're a bit late arriving to the party, but Team 48 is happy to be competing in the Newton Division (as the 400th team added to the CMP team list).

Steve W 17-04-2014 11:15
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1375330)
We're a bit late arriving to the party, but Team 48 is happy to be competing in the Newton Division (as the 400th team added to the CMP team list).
Yeah!!!!!

Navid Shafa 17-04-2014 11:16
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1375330)
We're a bit late arriving to the party, but Team 48 is happy to be competing in the Newton Division (as the 400th team added to the CMP team list).
Really glad to hear it. You guys had a rough season, but I'm sure this bot will shine at Champs. Good luck!

David Brinza 17-04-2014 11:54
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1375330)
We're a bit late arriving to the party, but Team 48 is happy to be competing in the Newton Division (as the 400th team added to the CMP team list).
Congrats! Maybe I'll be stalking Newton teams this year...

AllenGregoryIV 17-04-2014 12:24
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by P.J. (Post 1375159)
If we shoot somewhere between a layup and 18', which should we put yes for? Just so we all stay standard.
Put it as layup, then add a note in the comments.

Were, still missing a lot of teams. It would be great if we could get this finished before Wednesday so everyone is on the same page.

mathking 17-04-2014 12:29
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1375330)
We're a bit late arriving to the party, but Team 48 is happy to be competing in the Newton Division (as the 400th team added to the CMP team list).
Excellent Travis. I am very happy you made it and that we'll be in the same division. See you there.

Team 1574 17-04-2014 17:04
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Miscar 1574 is proud to be in the Newton division this year!

Hope to reach our achievement from 2008 - Newton Finalist.

Good luck you all, and we'll see you at the CMP!

Katie_UPS 17-04-2014 17:33
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
3928 and 525! Maybe we can convince another team to claim allegiance to Iowa and create champ's first Iowa Alliance.

Meredith Novak 17-04-2014 17:43
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Brinza (Post 1375359)
Congrats! Maybe I'll be stalking Newton teams this year...
You better be!

Bob Steele 17-04-2014 18:16
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katie_UPS (Post 1375559)
3928 and 525! Maybe we can convince another team to claim allegiance to Iowa and create champ's first Iowa Alliance.
We might have done that last year. Our school was located in Des Moines.

That is Des Moines Washington though...

Oh and we moved the school over the summer to Tukwila, Washington...

We will be happy to support you though!! My daughter did her Residency in Internal Medicine and her Fellowship in Rheumatology in Iowa.... great teaching school.

MrBydlon 17-04-2014 18:33
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1375149)
Alright so I'm copying this from Clinton Bolinger (#2337) from the Galileo thread.

Newton 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Scouting Database

Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns I-T.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgvyTH6hACHhdDNQckVmY3pCb1IxQWpzeWE0cEVCM Wc#gid=0

There is a glossary on the second sheet.
This Pre-Scouting Sheet is super awesome!

Could we (do we need to) make a column for videos?

We did that in our scouting spreadsheet. We used reveal videos whenever possible, however, we needed to use match videos sometimes.

I could copy the links in that we have and people could replace/fix any links.

AllenGregoryIV 17-04-2014 18:35
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBydlon (Post 1375575)
This Pre-Scouting Sheet is super awesome!

Could we (do we need to) make a column for videos?

We did that in our scouting spreadsheet. We used reveal videos whenever possible, however, we needed to use match videos sometimes.

I could copy the links in that we have and people could replace/fix any links.
It's added.

G-Hence 17-04-2014 18:39
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
I know team 1261 is super stoked to be placed in this top notch division! ;)

To be the best you have to play the best!! Best of luck to all teams! And see you on the field.

nuggetsyl 17-04-2014 19:28
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1375149)
Alright so I'm copying this from Clinton Bolinger (#2337) from the Galileo thread.

Newton 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Scouting Database

Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns I-T.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgvyTH6hACHhdDNQckVmY3pCb1IxQWpzeWE0cEVCM Wc#gid=0

There is a glossary on the second sheet.
I guess someone though it would be funny to delete teams. What a shame it was nice while it lasted.


Update :
I see that it was fixed. If you want to mess with stuff like resorting. Make a copy of it then play around with it.

AllenGregoryIV 17-04-2014 23:21
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetsyl (Post 1375601)
I guess someone though it would be funny to delete teams. What a shame it was nice while it lasted.


Update :
I see that it was fixed. If you want to mess with stuff like resorting. Make a copy of it then play around with it.
When I looked at it, it was blank again not sure why anyone would do that. I reverted it back. I also made a view only copy that only I can edit.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgvyTH6hACHhdHQtV2ZOS2hYTk9PUVFOb3ZBbmhPY nc#gid=0

Feel free to use the link above if you just want to look at the data, I'll try to update it a few times a day.

knighter 18-04-2014 02:48
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1375330)
We're a bit late arriving to the party, but Team 48 is happy to be competing in the Newton Division (as the 400th team added to the CMP team list).
Thats good to here Travis, this is Greg, I'm a former mentor from team 1270 currently the new team of 120 it will be good in seeing your bot glad to hear you will be joining us in Newton.

teku14 18-04-2014 08:51
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
I got this cool list... sort of pre-scouting for Newton Division
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

TedG 18-04-2014 09:16
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
BERT is excited to be competeing with all of you!
Good luck to all.

I'll be trying to keep an eye on the competition from Maine.

Go BERT!

Michael Corsetto 18-04-2014 16:55
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Team 1678 would like to invite Team 16 and Team 78 to join our alliance ;)

But seriously, how fun would it be to hear that alliance announced?

Plus, we'd probably win the whole thing... :rolleyes:

-Mike

MrBydlon 18-04-2014 16:57
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
PRELIMINARY Match Schedules have been released.

My heart's racing. This is going to be awesome.

Preliminary Match Schedules

Bob Steele 18-04-2014 16:58
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
It wouldn't be fun for the rest of us. Lol

Navid Shafa 18-04-2014 18:07
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
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Preliminary match schedules are out. I converted Newton's to excel and formatted for better viewing.

See attached.

Alpha Beta 18-04-2014 18:14
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
I like this year's preliminary schedule a lot better than last year's.

We start the tournament with 1114 & 910, and end qualifications with 971 and 364. A host of all-star caliber teams in between. Let's do this. :cool:

AllenGregoryIV 18-04-2014 18:15
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1376037)
Preliminary match schedules are out. I converted Newton's to excel and formatted for better viewing.

See attached.
It's also on the pre-scouting Google Doc, I added another sheet for it.

Alpha Beta 18-04-2014 18:17
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
FYI: Looks like 3147 and 868 are surrogates in match #35.

P.J. 18-04-2014 18:17
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha Beta (Post 1376039)
I like this year's preliminary schedule a lot better than last year's.

We start the tournament with 1114 & 910, and end qualifications with 971 and 364. A host of all-star caliber teams in between. Let's do this. :cool:
910 was quite excited to see our alliance for our first match as well :D

RonnieS 18-04-2014 18:42
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Hmm playing with 971 and 846, that should be one good match :cool:

Knufire 18-04-2014 19:03
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1376040)
It's also on the pre-scouting Google Doc, I added another sheet for it.
Any chance we could add predicted match results and/or predicted rankings using OPR?

Thanks for keeping it up!

aditya29 18-04-2014 19:08
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie314 (Post 1376064)
Hmm playing with 971 and 846, that should be one good match :cool:
Haha yes, was just talking to one of our students who observed that match47 is going to be fun again (referencing match 47 from SVR, when we played with 971 and 1323 against 254 and 368).

Navid Shafa 18-04-2014 19:22
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Simulated Rankings for Newton based off of OPR and Assist OPR:
*I'll double check it tonight, I'll be in the car the next few hours*

Code:
Rank        Team        Wins        Assist OPR
1        1986        10        50.2
2        368        10        28
3        3539        9        42.3
4        971        9        41.1
5        910        9        40.1
6        1114        9        40
7        16        9        29.2
8        868        9        23.9
9        1138        9        16.1
10        1678        8        64.8
11        1507        8        36.3
12        1817        8        27.9
13        1731        8        21.3
14        2054        8        18.5
15        846        8        18.3
16        340        8        17.5
17        2486        8        16.6
18        4039        7        35.7
19        3847        7        29.8
20        314        7        28.4
21        3260        7        25.5
22        3528        7        21.2
23        133        7        21
24        1983        7        21
25        48        7        20
26        3018        7        18.9
27        2522        7        16.6
28        364        7        15.5
29        3313        7        11.5
30        3824        7        11.4
31        610        6        33.3
32        1806        6        31.1

dodar 18-04-2014 20:00
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1376088)
Simulated Rankings for Newton based off of OPR and Assist OPR:
*I'll double check it tonight, I'll be in the car the next few hours*

Code:
Rank        Team        Wins        Assist OPR
1        1986        10        50.2
2        368        10        28
3        3539        9        42.3
4        971        9        41.1
5        910        9        40.1
6        1114        9        40
7        16        9        29.2
8        868        9        23.9
9        1138        9        16.1
10        1678        8        64.8
11        1507        8        36.3
12        1817        8        27.9
13        1731        8        21.3
14        2054        8        18.5
15        846        8        18.3
16        340        8        17.5
17        2486        8        16.6
18        4039        7        35.7
19        3847        7        29.8
20        314        7        28.4
21        3260        7        25.5
22        3528        7        21.2
23        133        7        21
24        1983        7        21
25        48        7        20
26        3018        7        18.9
27        2522        7        16.6
28        364        7        15.5
29        3313        7        11.5
30        3824        7        11.4
31        610        6        33.3
32        1806        6        31.1
Where are you getting the Assist OPR from? Because the only "Assist OPR" that I've seen is from the Google Doc that Allen Gregory posted for Newton and his are way different.

AllenGregoryIV 18-04-2014 20:07
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1376111)
Where are you getting the Assist OPR from? Because the only "Assist OPR" that I've seen is from the Google Doc that Allen Gregory posted for Newton and his are way different.
The ones in the spreadsheet are the Assist OPR from the event where the team had their highest overall OPR (from 1114's database). For the few teams I just looked at they seem to match Navid's but maybe he is using MaxAPR directly and that would be different for some teams.

eddie12390 18-04-2014 21:49
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto (Post 1375995)
Team 1678 would like to invite Team 16 and Team 78 to join our alliance ;)

But seriously, how fun would it be to hear that alliance announced?

Plus, we'd probably win the whole thing... :rolleyes:

-Mike
As long as you grab 3260 for your third pick ;)

Navid Shafa 18-04-2014 22:30
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1376115)
The ones in the spreadsheet are the Assist OPR from the event where the team had their highest overall OPR (from 1114's database). For the few teams I just looked at they seem to match Navid's but maybe he is using MaxAPR directly and that would be different for some teams.
I finished it in quite a hurry. I should be able to check it over soon, when I get back to a computer.

I used Max Event OPR to do the win loss calculations and Max Assist OPR to sort teams with the same QS.

dodar 18-04-2014 22:35
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1376115)
The ones in the spreadsheet are the Assist OPR from the event where the team had their highest overall OPR (from 1114's database). For the few teams I just looked at they seem to match Navid's but maybe he is using MaxAPR directly and that would be different for some teams.
What would be the difference between Max APR and Highest Event APR?

Abhishek R 18-04-2014 22:43
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1376210)
What would be the difference between Max APR and Highest Event APR?
Not sure, but it may be their highest APR was not necessarily at the event where they achieved their highest OPR.

Navid Shafa 19-04-2014 00:46
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1376115)
The ones in the spreadsheet are the Assist OPR from the event where the team had their highest overall OPR (from 1114's database).
Yes, I took the two stats separately. My stats match 1114's database.

I took team's Max OPR and Max Assist separately, that's the only difference.

kevincrispie 19-04-2014 01:11
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Allen, I think you might have Truss and Catch and Assist OPRs reversed.

That might be the problem.

AllenGregoryIV 19-04-2014 01:28
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevincrispie (Post 1376257)
Allen, I think you might have Truss and Catch and Assist OPRs reversed.

That might be the problem.
I'm pretty sure they were right at some point, anyone can edit it so I didn't notice it changed. (or possibly didn't notice it was labeled wrong the whole time). Ether way it's fixed now.

SciBorg Dave 19-04-2014 12:08
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
match #125 will be fun, Blue an all Washington State alliance. 1983-2522-4061
With 1 Washington team on the Red alliance 1294

SciBorg Dave 20-04-2014 00:29
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1375149)
Alright so I'm copying this from Clinton Bolinger (#2337) from the Galileo thread.

Newton 2014 - Collaborative Pre-Scouting Database

Teams try to add your information to the Google Doc for Columns I-T.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgvyTH6hACHhdDNQckVmY3pCb1IxQWpzeWE0cEVCM Wc#gid=0

There is a glossary on the second sheet.
Why do people change other teams stats.

TKM.368 20-04-2014 00:57
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jefferson (Post 1374954)
I will admit to being 368-ignorant until reading this post. Now after watching some video, that robot seems very... familiar. Now I wonder how they got a spy in our design meetings from way out there. :D That's one nice looking robot. It would be an honor to rock the swerve with a team like that.
Match 33! See you there! :D

(and we were wondering how you came up with our robot ;) )

AllenGregoryIV 20-04-2014 00:59
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SciBorg Dave (Post 1376679)
Why do people change other teams stats.
Very good questions, I don't have that answer, there are locked copies of the data in the other tabs. It's a good system when it works but it definitely isn't perfect. I hope most of the edits are mistakes and not vandalism but I'm not sure.

SciBorg Dave 20-04-2014 09:59
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1376695)
Very good questions, I don't have that answer, there are locked copies of the data in the other tabs. It's a good system when it works but it definitely isn't perfect. I hope most of the edits are mistakes and not vandalism but I'm not sure.
I agree, this is good info for all on Newton. Where are the locked copies ?

Tom Ore 20-04-2014 11:27
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
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Here is an attempt to produce a "strength of schedule" spreadsheet for Netwon. I add the OPRs of your 2 partners and subtract the OPRs of your 3 opponents and then total it for all matches. (Your own OPR is not included in the total.) The total values are then normalized from 1 (easiest schedule) to 100 (hardest schedule.) You can use either Max or Average OPR (I got the values from Ed Law's database.) The usual warnings about taking OPR too seriously apply.

You can also type in a team number and list all partners and opponents.

EDIT: I loaded a new version with updated OPRs.

tylerobot 20-04-2014 11:44
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Below is my attempt at compiling the "Must See" matches for Newton. I used a threshold of combined OPR of 400 (using "adjusted OPR"). There will be lots of other great matches, but I was trying to go for the top 10 or so.

There are 9 matches (out of 167) in Newton with a combined OPR score higher than 400. Match 33 is the highest combined score of 480.

They are:


(Calculated using team 2834's 2014 Scouting Database using adjusted OPR)

AllenGregoryIV 20-04-2014 12:39
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SciBorg Dave (Post 1376729)
I agree, this is good info for all on Newton. Where are the locked copies ?
The tabs at the bottom of the spreadsheet, see the attached image.

nuclearnerd 20-04-2014 14:39
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Ore (Post 1376752)
Here is an attempt to produce a "strength of schedule" spreadsheet for Netwon.
I did this up by hand for our team, but it's nice to have an automated solution. Thanks!

dodar 20-04-2014 14:57
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Ore (Post 1376752)
Here is an attempt to produce a "strength of schedule" spreadsheet for Netwon. I add the OPRs of your 2 partners and subtract the OPRs of your 3 opponents and then total it for all matches. (Your own OPR is not included in the total.) The total values are then normalized from 1 (easiest schedule) to 100 (hardest schedule.) You can use either Max or Average OPR (I got the values from Ed Law's database.) The usual warnings about taking OPR too seriously apply.

You can also type in a team number and list all partners and opponents.
Whenever I choose a team, it never changes from 525's partners/opponents.

RonnieS 20-04-2014 15:02
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1376842)
Whenever I choose a team, it never changes from 525's partners/opponents.
Same for me too.

aditya29 20-04-2014 15:03
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1376842)
Whenever I choose a team, it never changes from 525's partners/opponents.
As I opened the file, I got a warning that I need to enable macros to get everything to work. Did you enable them? Even then, it takes a few seconds to update the list after you enter a different team number, so perhaps it's just being a bit slower for you

Tom Ore 20-04-2014 15:05
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1376842)
Whenever I choose a team, it never changes from 525's partners/opponents.
You can run the macro FindPartners manually if it isn't running for some reason.

Nuttyman54 20-04-2014 15:22
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Ore (Post 1376752)
Here is an attempt to produce a "strength of schedule" spreadsheet for Netwon. I add the OPRs of your 2 partners and subtract the OPRs of your 3 opponents and then total it for all matches. (Your own OPR is not included in the total.) The total values are then normalized from 1 (easiest schedule) to 100 (hardest schedule.) You can use either Max or Average OPR (I got the values from Ed Law's database.) The usual warnings about taking OPR too seriously apply.

You can also type in a team number and list all partners and opponents.
Looks like there might be an error with 1138's OPR. They have a "Max" OPR of 1.0 but an "Average" OPR of 43.8. Not sure if that's an issue on your end or in Ed Law's spreadsheet, but it probably affects the SOS calculations.

I haven't checked if there are any others like that.

Still, this is super cool!

Tom Ore 20-04-2014 15:35
Re: 2014 Newton Division
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuttyman54 (Post 1376856)
Looks like there might be an error with 1138's OPR. They have a "Max" OPR of 1.0 but an "Average" OPR of 43.8. Not sure if that's an issue on your end or in Ed Law's spreadsheet, but it probably affects the SOS calculations.

I haven't checked if there are any others like that.

Still, this is super cool!
I did grab a few numbers from somewhere else when Ed's database was missing OPRs - it looks like there are several that don't look right.

EDIT: I linked in a new version with corrected OPRs.


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