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ks68 16-04-2014 19:57

Re: Einstein 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnFogarty (Post 1375008)
These alliances are all but impossible.

I realize that, I just wanted to make the best alliances I could think of.

Jaxom 16-04-2014 20:11

Re: Einstein 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ks68 (Post 1375006)
Archimedes: 33+27+2056+1477
Curie: 1718+118+254+469
Galileo: 67+836+148+225
Newton: 1114+1986+16+610

Which 2 teams on each of these alliances are you expecting to be sandbagging their qualification matches, in order to be available as 2nd & 3rd picks? :D Not that I wouldn't love to be part of that Newton alliance, but let's just say I'm not holding my breath.

Jay O'Donnell 16-04-2014 20:14

Re: Einstein 2014
 
Might as well try this again. Note that I'm usually really bad at predictions, but I'll just have some fun with it:

Archimedes:
Team 33 Killer Bees is going to dominate the Archimedes Division and seed first, and with that first pick they will take 2056 OP Robotics. With these two dominating the scoring, they pick up Team 2067 Apple Pi with the last pick of the second round for their great intake and swerve drive defense. They’ll use their final pick on 4265 Secret City Wildbots. Although they’ll play against some good alliances, they’ll have no trouble reaching the big show.

Curie:
This stacked division is looking to break the Curse once again. With so many proven teams on this field, any alliance one through eight could crack through to Einstein, and that is precisely what will happen as the 5 seed goes to the big stage. Alliance Captain 987 The Highrollers will lead the charge, picking up 177 The Bobcats and their six Einstein appearances. This alliance will pick up wildcard team 1323 Madtown Robotics and 772 the Sabre Bytes. This veteran alliance will not have an easy road, especially against alliances with 254, 469, 118, 11, 1718 and 624, but they will find a way to make it through.

Galileo:
After the perennial powerhouses such as 67, 148, 1717, and 2337 go to the first 2 or 3 seeds, PNW superstar 4488 Shockwave will be the Galileo Champion alliance captain with their two ball autonomous and great catapult. They’ll pick up Canada’s own 3683 Team Dave in the first round due to their great ability as a shooter, trusser, or passer. At the tail end of the draft, this alliance will pick up the youngsters of 4476 W.A.F.F.L.E.S., who will be a great passer for this alliance. In the third and final round, they’ll pick up overlooked 126 Gael Force as a solid replacement at any spot in the cycle, and for their fantastic truss to the Human Player strategy. It won’t be pretty, will require lots of third matches, usage of all four robots, and some luck, but this alliance will prevail over the superstars on Galileo thanks to their versatility.

Newton:
1986 will seed first and pick Canadian powerhouse 1114, but the best alliance will start with the second alliance captain, team 1678 The Citrus Circuits, with their versatility and amazing double intake, and they will pick team 610 The Coyotes to join them. As the draft unfolds, this 2nd seed alliance will pick up 3313 Mechatronics and their hammer, and then will pick up 811 Cardinals as a solid backup bot. They will have to play the likes of 971, 4039, 1592, and 1983, but they will prevail and move onto Einstein.

Einstein:
Archimedes vs Curie:
These two alliances will play some high scoring, tough matches, but the shooting of 2056 and 33 will overpower the Curie Alliance.
Winner: Archimedes
Galileo vs Newton:
While Galileo played great to get to Einstein, they simply won’t be able to match up to the teamwork of the Newton alliance, who will outscore them in two tough matches.
Winner: Newton
Archimedes vs Newton:
The scoring of Archimedes will be ferocious, but Newton’s teamwork and quick assists will be a tough matchup. After three hard matches, Archimedes pulls through with the win, the first championship for teams 33, 2056, 2067, and 4265.

jamierose 16-04-2014 20:17

Re: Einstein 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Lawrence (Post 1375002)
I usually don't make predictions...
(insert rest of really long post here)

Great analysis, and thanks for including us! It would be awesome to be on an eliminations alliance with 1114 for the first time ever (as far as I know). As always, they have a great robot and they know how to play the game.

There are a lot of robots better than 610's on Newton, though. If we somehow make it back to Einstein or even division finals, I would be more than happy with our performance. Champs is pretty crazy, though, so you never know how eliminations will play out.

Also, you talked about 865 and how they might be the third robot for the Curie alliance. Not only is their inbounding incredibly quick, but they also play possibly the best defence I've seen between both regionals 610 attended this year.

I've talked about them a bit with some of my teammates, and we decided that any alliance would be happy with Warp 7 because they're so great at what they do. In my opinion, they have the potential to change the outcome of eliminations. I suggest that the teams in Curie pay close attention to them when making a pick list.

Brandon Ha 16-04-2014 20:20

Re: Einstein 2014
 
I really am wondering apart from these alliances being "dreams" how effective it would be against an extremely strong defensive alliance. We saw many teams around the world get defeated when statistically speaking they should have won. Sooooo... Curie Curse SHALL BE BROKEN via penalties. Which would be so nice.

ks68 16-04-2014 20:24

Re: Einstein 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxom (Post 1375042)
Which 2 teams on each of these alliances are you expecting to be sandbagging their qualification matches, in order to be available as 2nd & 3rd picks? :D Not that I wouldn't love to be part of that Newton alliance, but let's just say I'm not holding my breath.

I know that these alliances won't happen. I think you guys will be with Simbotics, obviously there is an extremely low chance that either of the other teams would make it onto that alliance.

Abhishek R 16-04-2014 20:27

Re: Einstein 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon Ha (Post 1375051)
I really am wondering apart from these alliances being "dreams" how effective it would be against an extremely strong defensive alliance. We saw many teams around the world get defeated when statistically speaking they should have won. Sooooo... Curie Curse SHALL BE BROKEN via penalties. Which would be so nice.

I think we'll see many of these top offensive teams actually be the ones playing the hardest defense.

AlecMataloni 16-04-2014 20:29

Re: Einstein 2014
 
Archimedes: 254+254+254+254
Curie: 254+254+254+254
Galileo: 254+254+254+254
Newton: 254+254+254+254

254 beats 254 in 2
254 beats 254 in 3

254 wins in 2.

JohnFogarty 16-04-2014 20:30

Re: Einstein 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlecMataloni (Post 1375059)
Archimedes: 254+254+254+254
Curie: 254+254+254+254
Galileo: 254+254+254+254
Newton: 254+254+254+254

254 beats 254 in 2
254 beats 254 in 3

254 wins in 2.

Half-Life 3 confirmed.

dodar 16-04-2014 20:31

Re: Einstein 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnFogarty (Post 1375060)
Half-Life 3 confirmed.

Half-Life 3 is on a Waterworld = 2015 FRC Water Game.

Thad House 16-04-2014 20:32

Re: Einstein 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlecMataloni (Post 1375059)
Archimedes: 254+254+254+254
Curie: 254+254+254+254
Galileo: 254+254+254+254
Newton: 254+254+254+254

254 beats 254 in 2
254 beats 254 in 5, 2 replays

254 wins in 4, 1 replay

FTFY

Arman1266 16-04-2014 21:34

Re: Einstein 2014
 
Archimedes: 33, 2056, 2978, 4583

Galileo: 67, 148, 1266, 4476

Curie: 254, 987, 2478, 4161

Newton: 610, 16, 3847, 2486

Finals: Galileo vs Curie

Winner: Galileo

Sorry, new to this "picks" thing :P

alexander.h 16-04-2014 21:45

Re: Einstein 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlecMataloni (Post 1375059)
Archimedes: 254+254+254+254
Curie: 254+254+254+254
Galileo: 254+254+254+254
Newton: 254+254+254+254

254 beats 254 in 2
254 beats 254 in 3

254 wins in 2.

So, I wonder what team you're rooting for...

cgmv123 16-04-2014 22:04

Re: Einstein 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1375106)
Curie vs Galileo is a SF matchup. If you think Galileo wins, they would play either Archimedes/Newton in the Finals.

Nope, Archimedes plays Curie, and Galileo plays Newton

jamierose 16-04-2014 22:04

Re: Einstein 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1375106)
Curie vs Galileo is a SF matchup. If you think Galileo wins, they would play either Archimedes/Newton in the Finals.

We (Galileo) faced Newton during the semi-finals last year. We then played Archimedes, who beat Curie.

Is it going to change this year? If not, then Curie vs. Galileo can happen during the finals, which is what happened in 2012.

An easy way to remember which teams face each other in the semis is alphabetical order.
A and C come before G and N, so SFs are A vs C and G vs N.


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