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Taylor 13-05-2014 14:39
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 1384972)
I wonder if teams would even show up to the venue on Saturday if they were not picked on Friday.
Sadly, I don't know that we would. That's a >$2,000 decision for our team, and we're comparatively small (30 members).

bduddy 13-05-2014 15:24
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Norton (Post 1384987)
About rookies going to Championship. If they earn the right to go the same way as any other team then great. But they need to change the way seeding rounds are held. They would have to really randomize the seeding.
What do you mean? They're already random, within the constraints of an FRC schedule. Randomness means that some teams will get "lucky" and some will get "unlucky". Or are you suggesting that they make the schedules non-random? They tried that before, it didn't work too well...

Bmarshall645 13-05-2014 15:53
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Norton (Post 1384987)
Place to hold the Championship: Walt Disney Florida

1) Big Airport cheap to fly into
2) Lots of hotel rooms
3) Lot of things to do during down time
4) EPCOT big into new technology
5) Lots of space for all the teams.
6) Good weather in April.
7) Very safe

About rookies going to Championship. If they earn the right to go the same way as any other team then great. But they need to change the way seeding rounds are held. They would have to really randomize the seeding.
I believe the championship was held at Epcot the first 4 years of the program. Then it moved to Atlanta Georgia and then it moved to St.Louis.

scooty199 13-05-2014 17:58
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Did I just read someone wants a return to EPCOT?

Edit: ^ There was also a period where it was in Houston before moving to Atlanta.

Koko Ed 13-05-2014 18:11
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by scooty199 (Post 1385054)
Did I just read someone wants a return to EPCOT?

Edit: ^ There was also a period where it was in Houston before moving to Atlanta.
Houston deserves another shot. 2003 felt like a rush job.

Racer26 13-05-2014 18:20
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Speaking long-term, growing championship much bigger than its current size? I think Orlando is the only city that *can* support it. Nowhere else has a high enough density of hotels, and enough convention space.

Koko Ed 13-05-2014 18:28
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racer26 (Post 1385058)
Speaking long-term, growing championship much bigger than its current size? I think Orlando is the only city that *can* support it. Nowhere else has a high enough density of hotels, and enough convention space.
If they don't have a domed stadium then I don't want to hear about how many hotel rooms they have. What happened in late 90's and the early millennium isn't going to fill the bill anymore. FIRST has outgrown Disney World.

dodar 13-05-2014 20:09
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1385061)
If they don't have a domed stadium then I don't want to hear about how many hotel rooms they have. What happened in late 90's and the early millennium isn't going to fill the bill anymore. FIRST has outgrown Disney World.
The largest convention center in the world wouldnt work for you?(Orange County Convention Center)

Steven Donow 13-05-2014 20:13
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1385088)
The largest convention center in the world wouldnt work for you?(Orange County Convention Center)
Having an event strictly in a convention center is VERY different than a convention center with an attached arena.

dodar 13-05-2014 20:17
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven Donow (Post 1385091)
Having an event strictly in a convention center is VERY different than a convention center with an attached arena.
Were the fields in the pits a few years ago really that bad? Or were they only bad because of the minimal seating?

Cory 13-05-2014 20:28
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1385093)
Were the fields in the pits a few years ago really that bad? Or were they only bad because of the minimal seating?
Einstein is impossible in a convention center.

scooty199 13-05-2014 20:32
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Technically... McCormick place in Chi-Town is larger but who cares?

A domed arena really has become a necessity for FIRST CMPS.

dodar 13-05-2014 20:32
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1385097)
Einstein is impossible in a convention center.
Mind saying why?

Cory 13-05-2014 20:36
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1385099)
Mind saying why?
Because you need far too many seats than you can effectively fit into a convention center before you run out of height, or you cannot see the field/stage.

popnbrown 13-05-2014 20:51
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by scooty199 (Post 1385098)
Technically... McCormick place in Chi-Town is larger...
The 10 minute walk to champs from my house would be fantasmic

Alas,
Quote:
...but who cares?

A domed arena really has become a necessity for FIRST CMPS.
I agree.

So close to a McDome too, long live.

Also it'd be pretty friggin expensive and likely FIRST wouldn't like the price tag.


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