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Tom Bottiglieri 13-05-2014 20:57
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
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Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 1384995)
Sadly, I don't know that we would. That's a >$2,000 decision for our team, and we're comparatively small (30 members).
I'm not following. Assuming you have already booked travel and lodging, how does abstaining from attending the event (in lieu of, say, a baseball game or more city exploring) save you money?

scooty199 13-05-2014 21:11
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
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Originally Posted by popnbrown (Post 1385101)
The 10 minute walk to champs from my house would be fantasmic

Alas,

I agree.

So close to a McDome too, long live.

Also it'd be pretty friggin expensive and likely FIRST wouldn't like the price tag.
Well.. Chicago is a larger city than St. Louis. Larger travel hub too.

Costs would be ridiculous, including at the hotels.

ezygmont708 13-05-2014 21:17
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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1385097)
Einstein is impossible in a convention center.
Not necessarily... It may be possible in the Philadelphia convention center, but it would be extremely expensive to do it! So cost prohibitive, but not impossible.

popnbrown 13-05-2014 21:25
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by scooty199 (Post 1385103)
Well.. Chicago is a larger city than St. Louis. Larger travel hub too.
Ahh...hopefully one day this will become important. (Edit: because it'll be super international)


As for the expensiveness, looks like we need to infiltrate the machine.

I'm kidding Chicago, don't be mad.

Taylor 14-05-2014 08:27
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 1385102)
I'm not following. Assuming you have already booked travel and lodging, how does abstaining from attending the event (in lieu of, say, a baseball game or more city exploring) save you money?
I mean we'd go home. If we could save a night's worth of hotel rooms and a day's worth of charter bus (assuming the companies refund us), that's a lot of bank.

Gregor 14-05-2014 08:44
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
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Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 1385167)
I mean we'd go home. If we could save a night's worth of hotel rooms and a day's worth of charter bus (assuming the companies refund us), that's a lot of bank.
But you wouldn't know until around 7 or 8pm that night. Would you be able to change your travel plans on the fly like that?

BrendanB 14-05-2014 08:48
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
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Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1385171)
But you wouldn't know until around 7 or 8pm that night. Would you be able to change your travel plans on the fly like that?
It would work for teams who take buses however I'm not sure if you can get your money back for your hotel.

Citrus Dad 14-05-2014 13:49
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
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Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 1384972)
I wonder if teams would even show up to the venue on Saturday if they were not picked on Friday.
I agree this could be a problem. However, many teams will have to book hotel rooms through Friday or Saturday night anyway, and will have unchangeable plane flights, so I don't think this will be a problem. I expect that most teams come to the Champs hoping that they will advance to elims. And many of the other teams are shooting for other awards that would be made on Saturday. So I don't think the attrition rate would be very high.

To be honest, playing Qs on Saturday AM followed by alliance selection has not been an issue for us. We prep the night before and look at different scenarios. (I'm sure 254 does the same.) Last year we had about a half dozen scenarios. This year we had 3.

From an educational standpoint, I think having this uncertainty and learning to plan for it is very important. This reflects the real world--you have to think ahead and prepare appropriately for different outcomes.

Steven Donow 28-05-2014 11:58
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Here are some "official details" about the new layout.

Included is the video shown at Champs this year

And this little blurb:
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Here are a few new features to give you a sneak peak:
  • Multiple new venues
  • Olympic Village feel
  • Entertainment options
  • Dedicated transportation
  • New media formats for participants onsite and at home
  • And, best of all – more chances to see your friends and meet new ones from around the world
Bolded for hooray better streaming.

Rosiebotboss 28-05-2014 12:29
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
For those of us not able to get YouTube from behind our work firewall, is there any mention of the number of teams from each program?

MARS_James 28-05-2014 12:46
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
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Originally Posted by Rosiebotboss (Post 1387728)
For those of us not able to get YouTube from behind our work firewall, is there any mention of the number of teams from each program?
No unfortunately, although one thing being overlooked is The Edward Jones Dome will apparently be hosting something called FIRST Family Celebration, take with that what you will.

Steven Donow 28-05-2014 12:50
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
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Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1387732)
No unfortunately, although one thing being overlooked is The Edward Jones Dome will apparently be hosting something called FIRST Family Celebration, take with that what you will.
I would assume that that is just some big "opening ceremony" type thing for the entire event

cgmv123 28-05-2014 17:38
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
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Originally Posted by Rosiebotboss (Post 1387728)
is there any mention of the number of teams from each program?
Frank said at Championship that they're looking at about 600 FRC teams, but it will depend on how they handle the divisions.

Libby K 30-05-2014 09:25
Re: New Championship Layout 2015
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1387732)
No unfortunately, although one thing being overlooked is The Edward Jones Dome will apparently be hosting something called FIRST Family Celebration, take with that what you will.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven Donow (Post 1387734)
I would assume that that is just some big "opening ceremony" type thing for the entire event
Yep. This whole 'Olympic Village' feel means we need dedicated, all-program opening and closing ceremonies where the whole FIRST Family is together and celebrating the season. From an FRC perspective it shouldn't change much, but I think it'll make a world of a difference in making FLL and FTC feel included.

James1902 30-05-2014 09:46
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"New media formats for participants onsite and at home" sounds interesting.


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