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AustinShalit 26-04-2014 20:18

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The next time FIRST moves Championships to a new city they are going to move it to a bigger city. St. Louis just cannot accommodate more teams....

dag0620 26-04-2014 20:23

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Originally Posted by AustinShalit (Post 1378882)
The next time FIRST moves Championships to a new city they are going to move it to a bigger city. St. Louis just cannot accommodate more teams....

Also a hub city would be nice.

I get why St. Louis is attractive from the HQ perspective, the venue was almost built for FIRST Champs, the city works well with us, and it appears to be in the middle of the county.

BUT

The city isn't really capable of handling the influx of people, in terms of hotel and infrastructure. Also Lambert isn't a hub city, so getting flights into the city, and cheaply for that matter, is hard for almost everyone.

St. Louis has been great, but I hope for 2018 they look for a city that is a little more capable of handling us in areas outside of just the venue.

dodar 26-04-2014 20:45

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Originally Posted by dag0620 (Post 1378891)
Also a hub city would be nice.

I get why St. Louis is attractive from the HQ perspective, the venue was almost built for FIRST Champs, the city works well with us, and it appears to be in the middle of the county.

BUT

The city isn't really capable of handling the influx of people, in terms of hotel and infrastructure. Also Lambert isn't a hub city, so getting flights into the city, and cheaply for that matter, is hard for almost everyone.

St. Louis has been great, but I hope for 2018 they look for a city that is a little more capable of handling us in areas outside of just the venue.

I dont know why they ever left Atlanta. Either go back to Atlanta or go way back to Orlando.

221Sarahborg 26-04-2014 20:52

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Having three separate venues compared to even two sounds crazy, which just tells you how quickly the expansion of FIRST is going. Maybe the growth rate thing on the Top Ten this year may not be so crazy if they're doing that next year. They'd probably move to a more legible city to accommodate for how many teams go to Nationals for how many there are in just a matter of years.

Cam877 26-04-2014 21:40

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A lot of people are talking about more FRC teams being able to go, but I think the addition of new FRC teams will be pretty minimal. If more divisions are added, it will be to increase the amount of matches teams will play, and adding more teams is not how you do that. While thee might be a few more positions available, I doubt it will be significant. That would defeat what I think would be the main purpose of this move.

Anupam Goli 26-04-2014 22:01

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Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1378912)
I dont know why they ever left Atlanta. Either go back to Atlanta or go way back to Orlando.

I'd love for it to come back to Atlanta, but with the new dome moving even farther from the GWCC than the current one is, I don't think FIRST will move back here. Unless teams like a 1 mile walk to and from the dome floor to the pits.

thatprogrammer 26-04-2014 22:03

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Originally Posted by dpbuttram (Post 1378624)
We had thought it would be awesome to see 8 divisions of 75 teams. 75 teams x 12 matches per team = 900 team/matches divided by 6 teams per match = an even 150 matches per field. No more unwieldy extra matches for some teams or a couple teams not getting the same as most other teams.

150 matches per field can be done over Thursday and Friday.
The winning alliances from all 8 fields move on Saturday for an Elite Eight type setup.

Field names?
1. Archimedes
2. Curie
3. Newton
4. Galileo
5. proposed - Pythagoras
6. proposed - Hubble
7. proposed - Euclid
8. proposed - Kepler

Any other suggestions?

Come on, we all know we need a field named tesla!

dodar 26-04-2014 22:17

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Originally Posted by thatprogrammer (Post 1378946)
Come on, we all know we need a field named tesla!

Tesla, Hubble, Keplar, Maxwell

BethMo 26-04-2014 22:24

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Originally Posted by thatprogrammer (Post 1378946)
Come on, we all know we need a field named tesla!

I'd vote for Feynman.

thatprogrammer 26-04-2014 22:30

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Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1378954)
Tesla, Hubble, Keplar, Maxwell

^ too perfect..
TOO PERFECT!

we must all spam frank until he uses his powers to make this real ;)


edit: also I think orlando might be a great place for 2018, if not seattle.

goldenglove002 26-04-2014 22:34

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Originally Posted by Anupam Goli (Post 1378945)
I'd love for it to come back to Atlanta, but with the new dome moving even farther from the GWCC than the current one is, I don't think FIRST will move back here. Unless teams like a 1 mile walk to and from the dome floor to the pits.

Don't rule it out. It's only about 2/10ths of a mile from the door of building B to the doors of the new stadium. As long as there is a path from the convention center into the stadium for the robots, it would be a strong venue that could handle an expanded competition.

If you need visual reference, this was just released to show the idea for a convention center hotel. New stadium is in the bottom corner: http://media.bizj.us/view/img/252577...nal-sm*600.jpg

RC3 26-04-2014 22:40

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Originally Posted by thatprogrammer (Post 1378959)



edit: also I think orlando might be a great place for 2018, if not seattle.

Where in Seattle would they put 4+ fields? I know of no building with enough room to do all of this xD

cadandcookies 26-04-2014 23:44

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Originally Posted by BethMo (Post 1378956)
I'd vote for Feynman.

+1.

Feynman would be an awesome name for a field.

Wayne TenBrink 27-04-2014 00:16

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Perhaps some day the NFL will play the Superbowl in the Kamen/FIRST Dome, which will be big enough to handle 8 FRC fields, with spacious pits for 600 teams, and comfortable grandstands that are just a few short steps away.

thatprogrammer 27-04-2014 00:42

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Originally Posted by RC3 (Post 1378964)
Where in Seattle would they put 4+ fields? I know of no building with enough room to do all of this xD

I do believe the Washington State Convention Center is big enough.. though I may be mistaken!

Also: Epicot is not the only center large enough in FL to hold the championships ;)
Wouldn't mind one in san diego either... Any place that can keep my floridian blood warm is good :P


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