Successful Team Ups By State
 

I decided when reflecting back on the history of FRC in my state I would like to see what Elimination pairings seem to happen and have success in your state/province. PLEASE only comment on YOUR location. (inb4 2056 and 1114)

For Florida it has to be 233 and 179. As an alliance they won 3 Florida Regionals (2005, 2009 and 2011) as well as a trip to Einstein (2007). There is also a history of eliminating each other (2007, 2008 Florida and 2012, 2013, and 2014 Orlando).

So what are some historical team ups for eliminations that have seemed to be successful?

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In 2009 two Indiana teams (45 and 234) paired up in DC to win and were finalist in 3 close matches at Boilermaker.

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67 and 469 in michigan

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PNW:

1983 and 1318 now have 3 wins together. A regional win (2009), a district win (2014) and the first ever district championship win together (2014).

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254 and 971 in Northern California. Taken the Silicon Valley Regional more times than I can remember. Funny how all-star teams like playing with other all-star teams. I think there may be some sort of correlation there...

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118/148 like to team up a lot

same with 1477/624

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Southern California, 1717 and 330. 3 Regional Wins together.

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188 and 610 have a habit of teaming up.

edit: woops, 188 not 118

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Not too sure about that one.

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Because we read the OP

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Not a state but for MAR, 2590 has first picked 341 at multiple events over the last few years and, unsurprisingly, won them all. Most recently at MAR Champs 2014 (and from 7th seed :ahh: )

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I was thinking the same thing....

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1519 has had a very long road of success since 2009.

2009- GSR Chairmans
2010- GSR Winners, NCR Finalists
2011- GSR Winners
2012- GSR Finalists, NCR Winners
2013- NCR Winners, Einstein Finalists
2014- GSD Finalists, RIDE Finalists + Engineering Inspiration

As for team ups New Hampshire hasn't had any native NH repeat alliances however team 131 has not only had their own success streak in conjunction with 1519 but they did team up this year.

131:

2011- GSR Finalists (lost to 1519) + Engineering Inspiration
2012- GSR Winners (beat 1519)
2013- GSR Chairmans
2014- GSD Finalists (with 1519), UNH Finalists

In addition to these big awards both of these teams have taken home a decent amount of technical and non-technical awards.

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359 + 368

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1918 vs 2054
*caveat: I could have sworn they were together more (as in, at all), but it seems more to be a successful rivalry. So, not exactly what the thread was after...

2014:
2054 beats 1918 SF West MI

2013:
2054 beats 1918 F West MI
2054 beats 1918 SF MSC

2012:
2054 beats 1918 F West MI

2011:
1918 beats 2054 F West MI
2054 beats 1918 QF MSC

2010:
2054 beats 1918 F West MI

2009:
1918 beats 2054 QF Lansing

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First, sorry for my original reply, that was pretty careless of me.

To address the question, 1625 winnovation and 2451 pwnage have a habit of winding up together at Midwest.

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This year 2485 and 987 paired up at one of the Cali regionals and Vegas if I remember right. Then they won Vegas.

As for Arizona, two of the big powerhouse teams here from year-to-year are 2486 and 842. This year they paired up and kicked butt at Phoenix.

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20 and 195

Though these two teams are not from the same state, they've had some good luck together in recent years at the CT Regional. They won together in 2012 and 2013. And plus, 20 almost always came to CT, so it's close enough. They also teamed up this year at Champs.

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Florida off-season would be 233 and 744. If I remember correctly, we've teamed up in '07, '08, '11, '12, '13 and won three of them. Keep in mind that there was (basically) no off-season in Florida in '10 and I believe '09 was wiped from 233's memory ;)

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I just looked back through 2008 in Oregon. At Oregon events, 1318 and 1983 won together in both 2014 and 2009, and 360 and 3711 won 2011 and 2012 together back to back. But all 4 of those teams are from Washington. I don't think any Oregon teams have paired together more then once, and then won as well.

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316 likes to pair up with 225. We even have a name for it, "LunaTechFire".

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1986 and 1806 won both Kansas City and Oklahoma together in 2013. They paired up again for the Newton elimination matches in 2014.

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I was the one who got to pick 179 on Archimedes in 2007. The devious glee I got when I realized that such an awesome team would be left to us as a 3rd slot will always hold a special place in my heart.

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230 and 4055 (both Connecticut teams) were finalists together at two district events and won the NE District Championship together this year.

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For Connecticut: 177, 230, and 4055 have had some recent history with and against each other.

2014 -
Southington District - 4055 and 230 make it to finals together.
Hartford District - 4055 and 230 make it to finals together, but lose to 177.
NE CMP - 230, 177, and 4055 are on the same alliance and win the event.
Curie Division - 177 and 230 are on the same alliance for eliminations.

2013 -
CT Regional - 177 loses to 230 in the semifinals.
CT Championship (offseason) - 177 beats 230 in the finals.
WIWI (offseason) - 177 beats 230. (There is nothing on TBA, but I think this is right)

2012 - (4055's rookie year)
WPI Regional - 230 beats 177 in quarterfinals.
CT Regional - 177 beats 230 in quarterfinals.

2011 -
CT Regional - 177 beats 230 in semifinals.

Our history goes back to 1999

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Yes, these two have been a dominant pair in Hawaii for many years

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We actually go way back to SVR.

We paired up in eliminations:
2000 SVR finalist
2001 SVR finalist
2003 SVR finalist
2008 Hawaii finalist
2010 Hawaii winner
2011 Hawaii winner
2014 Hawaii winner

All finalist losses came at the hands of 254.

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This is true, but 341's recent winning percentage has led them to have successful alliances with a lot of teams. :rolleyes: 341 has won three events with 2590 (2013 Hatboro-Horsham, 2014 Hatboro-Horsham, 2014 MAR Championship), two events with 1218 (2012 Hatboro-Horsham, 2012 Chestnut Hill), two events with 225 (2013 Chestnut Hill, 2013 Ramp Riot), two events with 1640 (2012 Hatboro-Horsham, 2012 MAR Championship), and two events with 365 (2008 and 2010 Philadelphia regionals).

25 and 103 used to be famous for pairing up in the pre-MAR days, as they won the New Jersey regional together in 2006, 2007, and 2008.

On the rivalry side of things, 1712 can't avoid facing 365. MOE and Dawgma have clashed in the 2009 DC regional quarter-finals, the 2010 Philadelphia regional quarter-finals, the 2011 Philadelphia regional quarter-finals, the 2013 Lenape district semi-finals, and the 2014 MAR championship quarter-finals. Maybe one day we'll be on the same alliance as 365. :rolleyes:

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Related to that, prior to Midwest this year 1625 and 1732 competed at 10 official events (not counting IRI and other off seasons) together but never on the same alliance (qualification or elimination) despite playing against each other 12 times. At Midwest this year we finally had a qualification match together and we made it count, winning 270-42. Come eliminations, we were back to facing each other where 1625 won very easily in the finals.

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314 Big Mo and 503 won a District this season and were Finalists in another; our teams have a great bond and our drivers are very good friends. We attended all the same District competitions and will likely see each other in the coming years - I quite enjoy the idea of a Mo Frogs partnership :D Just wait until we're put in the same division together, we'll see you all in Einstein hahaha (all kidding aside this year especially our robots, drivers, and teams were very compatible)

27 (Team RUSH) and 33 (Killer Bees) paired together at MSC (along with 314) to win it all, and 27/33 were paired together in Archimedes Elims and were finalists iirc. Not 100% sure of these two teams' histories together but they are for sure one of the strongest Michigan partners.

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Yes, we paired up at San Diego and made the finals, then won the Las Vegas regional together.

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25 and 103 is a pairing you did not want to face and it continues to be a strong partnership. We are very good friends with both of these teams, but it always seems that we end up facing them in competition.
All of the other teams you mentioned 2590, 225, 1218, 365, and 1640 are great partners. it is an honor to play with them whenever we get the opportunity.

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Not from the same state, but this year at the Pine Tree District event my team (3525), 133, and 3930 were together in eliminations. I loved the alliance and we did very well together until a few problems in the finals. This year our bots nearly seemed to be built to work together.

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Successful rivalry seems to be our fate. We are friends and usually meet the last weekend of each build season at 2771's (Code Red Grandville) practice field at their open house which gives West Michigan teams a chance to test their robots and see the local teams and robots that come there. The "Gears" are a very good team that always field a good robot and strategy but we haven't ended up on the same side of the field in eliminations due to a lot of factors but there is always hope for next season!!!

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The same teams pairing up successfully several times is pretty rare. It happens less than it seems to, because even if two teams are "above the pack" at an event, they're still more likely than not to be on different alliances. Look at all the factors in play for your question: the two teams have to be in the same state, really good not only over a long period of time but also particularly good in the same years, going to many events, and going to many of the same events, and they need quite a bit of luck.

As a result, there are only 6 pairings that have more than 3 event wins (including cmp & division wins separately). 16 more pairings had 3 wins. The rarity is what makes the 1114/2056 partnership so special; there's nothing even remotely like it.

Interestingly, all these pairings are teams in the same state/province. A few of the 3-win pairings were teams across borders, including 16/148 and 341/2590, or even across a country, like 111/254.

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Thanks for compiling this. This is something I'd love to see on TBA Insight page. I'm still hoping someone will take my idea of mutli-team searching and make it happen. I think it would be really cool to be able to simultaneously search multiple teams on TBA and see all instances that they were in the same match (either with or against each other).

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But as I said in my first post 179/233 have 2005, 2009, 2011 Florida, and 2007 Archimedes so doesn't that put us at 4 with 217/469?

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FIRST's page lists 233 as a finalist at Florida 2005, which is why my scraper didn't catch it. The match results page is clearly erroneous.

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233, 179, 1592 did win the Florida Regional in 2005. We've tried to get those pages on the FIRST website changed since 2008 but nothing ever came from it.

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https://github.com/the-blue-alliance...ce/issues/1018

We're tracking now. Thanks for the suggestion!

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Not a very long history.. but 2175 and 4607 won North Star in 2013, won state together in 2013 and were alliance partners yet again during elims at North Star this year.

Edit -spelling-

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It might not be a very long history relative to the history of FIRST but it is our whole history! Every elimination round that 4607 has played in has been with 2175. I would say 2 wins in 3 attempts is successful and you never know what the future might hold.

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We (2046) teamed up with 2471 in 2012 and won the Seattle Cascade regional, and then we teamed up again in 2013 and won the Oregon Regional. We first teamed up in 2010 at the Seattle regional but only made it to Semi-finals.

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Amusingly, I had something that did this but it got broken because of The Blue Alliance API changes.

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Rather than two teams, how about three? The alliance of 2996, 1410, and 662 took the finalist spot at the Colorado regional in both 2013 and 2014. Both years they lost to alliances that were comprised primarily of out-of-state teams, so I'd say they count as the most dominant alliance from Colorado for the last two years.

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All you have to do is add a HTTP request and all of your old stuff will still work. Its just minor addition in your code prior to pulling all the data when you initialize a HTML stream or json reader or however you access their api

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Got it working again. The results are attached.

The columns are:
1) team1
2) team2
3) # of times team1 beat team2
4) # of times team2 beat team1
5) # of times team1 and team2 opposed and tied
6) # of times that team1 and team2 were on the same alliance and won
7) # of times that team1 and team2 were on the same alliance and lost
8) # of times that team1 and team2 were on the same alliance and tied

This is all per the Blue Alliance data since 2002. If people are interested I can share the program; there are a lot of knobs you can twist if you're interested.

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Thanks for posting, it's just a little difficult to work with right now. This appears to include every match in existence, not just event wins together. Would it be possible to filter by multiple wins in a single finals series?

Also, when filtering by most matches won together, the first several thousand results are a team playing with itself. In one strange instance I found that 4543 apparently has both won and lost a match against themselves. :yikes:

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Team 1986 team Titanium and team 1806 S.W.A.T. both out of the Kansas City Missouri area have teamed up qutie a bit, invluding elims on Newton this year. They also won the K.C. regional last year in 2013.

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I think that would be this match: http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2013mttd_qm47

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Fun Fact: As far back as I can find, 254/971 have never lost a match together. Ever. (including offseasons) All 5 regional wins have been at SVR (2004, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2014) and were straight 6-0 runs except 2009, which involved 1 tie. 971 was the alliance captain in all 5 victories.

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Another alliance that might make the list in the future is the one we have formed with our friends 971. I know your friendship with the Poofs goes back a little farther but we've had some tremendous success together in the few times we've hooked up.

In 2012, the alliance of 1678/971/3189 went undefeated in elims at the Sacramento regional. Our scores in elims were 50-17, 35-22, 52-26, 61-28, 63-30, 63-26 (in order from QF-1 through F-2).

This year, the alliance of 971/1678/766 also went undefeated in elims at the Sacramento regional. Our scores were 225-115, 265-95, 236-97, 256-95, 182-91, 216-87 (again QF-1 through F-2). If anyone's counting at this point, that's 10 out of 12 matches where we at least doubled our opponent's score.

Then at champs this year, the alliance of 1678/971/5136 (all from California) went undefeated all the way through Divisions and Einstein, beating the alliance of 254/469/2848 handily. OK, so that didn't actually happen. Maybe next year?

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801 + 1592
Florida, tend to build twins actually
1251 + 179
Florida, built twins this year

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Well... This sums up 548 and 67

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It could have! But you guys just had to go and pick that lousy Canadian team...

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By the luck of the draw, 2729 was paired once with 2590 during qualification rounds at every competition we attended this year and scored no less than 200 points as a part of the alliance. Go to show the strength of their team and robot! The other-side of the coin, we had to face 2590 in quarterfinals at our two district competitions. They are an excellent group to align with!

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In the north west, 2471 (Team Mean Machine) won with 2046 (Bear Metal) multiple times. All that comes to mind is Seattle 2012, and Portland 2013. Unfortunately, we only got to play with them in one match this year. (Hopefully we'll see more of them next year ;) )

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I checked over some of this and I was missing some data from earlier this year. If anyone sees something amiss let me know.

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So, that 1986-1806 team up people were talking about earlier...
The team that has handed 1806 the most losses is 1986, who have beaten 1806 10 times.
Likewise, 1806 has been on an alliance that has bested 1986 and company 7 times, which is the most any one team has beaten them.

However, 1986 and 1806's alliance record is 19-4-1.

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Now that everyone's probably bored of this thread, here's some data that answers the question more directly.

The columns are the same as the previous stuff I've uploaded but this breaks it down showing only the top10 per state. The second one counts only elimination matches.

Some intesting things to note:
1) China's provinces are numbered
2) Israel's provinces have single letter abbreviations

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Definitely not bored, I appreciate it.

Any chance we can get an overall breakdown without state borders? I'd like to see most match/event wins together in all of FRC history (TBA Insight style).

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Here are the results matchwise. The zip file contains one file for all matches and another for elimination matches only. The columns are the same as before. The file that includes qualifications is basically that same data that I uploaded earlier just sorted differently.

Event-winning results will take a little more coding; I don't think I'm going to get around to that today.

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Thanks! For now, I'll approximate event wins (Elimination wins/6, rounded down)

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As of today, team 2175 and team 2052 have won state together two years in a row.

Also, teams 177, 558, and 5129 took the District win at the Hartford event, and with the same alliance took State Champions today.

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in the PNW as of late, 1318 (IRS) and 1983 (Skunkworks) have become best of buddies, winning I think 5 events together now. and beating my team twice :(

We've done well with 2907 a couple of times, but it has yet to be a super recurring thing (although both times we teamed up, it was at the District event at their High school)

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Unfortunately we(IRS) have only won four official FRC events with Skunks to date. If you include off season events(Girls Generation 2013 and 2014) the total rises to 6 events.
2009 Oregon Regional
2014 Auburn District
2014 PNW DCMP
2015 Auburn Mountainview District

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Seeing last week in Utah, It might be a possibility again, but 662 will be the big "maybe" in the equation. 662 this year has a fantastic robot; I'd argue that it is a better one than Gunther (our robot this year). Because of this, they may be the choosers this year if we somehow pair up again. I haven't had the chance to watch 1410 in depth, but they always surprise me with their novel approach to the game. Up-a-Creek robotics (1619) has already won Utah, and will certainly be a major player at the Denver Regional.

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Well now it's 5.

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It's 5 now... stop winning everything, leave some for us :P

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Decided to finally bug Eugene about this. Would really love to see it up there...

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Will get it done. Eventually. https://github.com/the-blue-alliance...ce/issues/1148

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You're the best! ;)

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It's live on insights now, this thread is obsolete!

http://www.thebluealliance.com/insights

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The gap between 1114/2056 and everyone else. :yikes:

Most surprising: 111, 254 (3x)

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2056 has only won 6 events without 1114...

I wonder if that affects their alliance selections at all?

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They consistently pick the best team available to them in alliance selections. They have consistently been the top 2 robots in Canada.

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Or, 1114 has only won 5 events without 2056. (while 2056 has existed) They are both phenomenal teams.

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We realized at our most recent district event that we have what might be a somewhat unusual history of "successful team ups" -- in our 11-year history, we have been on the winning alliance nine times. Accordingly, there are 18 alliance partners from those nine wins. What we think might be unique is that they are all different!

Winning alliances for 1519 in their first 11 years:

2006 Granite State Regional: 1276, 133
2010 Granite State Regional: 1073, 1058
2011 Granite State Regional: 175, 176
2012 North Carolina Regional: 1311, 2642
2013 North Carolina Regional: 435, 4828
2013 Archimedes Division: 33, 469
2015 Granite State District: 95, 1307
2015 UMASS District: 230, 4908
2015 Northeastern University District: 125, 1786

Thanks to our many great alliance partners over the years!

Anybody else been a part of more winning alliances without any repeat alliance partners?

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This is an interesting perspective... instead of noting you have favorite partners, you show your diversity! After working with you at UMASS-Dartmouth, I am not at all surprised by your success with varied alliance partners. You are a strong, professional team that is easy to work with as well as being on top of your game. Congrats on your successes over the years! Glad we had the opportunity to be part of it.

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2015 NECMP: 195, 2067

You're running out of unique partners.

Also, you totally should have won RI in 2014. On many re-watchings on TBA, it's pretty clear that we only made it because your arm got damaged in F3 early on in the match. If you had been at full capacity for a few more seconds it would have been your match.

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The most successful team-up in Indy this year has definitely been 234 and 1024. They won 2 events in a row (Purdue district event and IndCmp).

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At the Lake Superior Regional 4818 and 93 did awesome together because 4818 could make 3-4 tote stacks and 93 could cap them. Comparatively to other teams at a national level, that's not the best, but it was for sure the best at Lake Superior.

Clarification - as far as I know, not a recurring thing, but they did awesome just at this regional so very well could become one.

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We've never won with this pairing, but 857 and 2586 have paired twice to be finalists (which is 857's best event finish).

2015:
Escanaba - Finalist
4391 + 857 + 2586

2014:
Traverse City - Finalist
857 + 3688 + 2586

2012:
West Michigan - Quarterfinalist
2586 + 3234 + 857

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Not quite "Most successful Team ups" but more like "most repetitive opposition", team 135 and 67 competed against each other in the finals in 2005 TWICE (Buckeye Regional and Newton Division). In both, 135 was picked first by the 1 seed and 67 was picked first by the 2 seed, and HOT won both times. I know we also competed in the Curie Quarterfinals 2013. We have never been on an alliance with them, though.

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I think the metric would be biased to teams who win a large number of events, for example 254 (this is drawing from memory) has opposed a number of teams much more frequently than 135 v 67, like 1868 during SVR from like 2009-2014, or 1323 (I think we won each event 1323 attended last year, plus events other years). Or consider 1114 and 610, they've only paired up ONCE, but have gone against each other a ton.

Or look any team that wins events. For each event, they have to beat at least 9 teams (3 alliances * 3 rounds + backups). Since most events are geographically based, they draw from the same pool of teams year in and year out. If you win 4 district events over the years, 36 teams is bigger than a district event, and if it's the same event, you are almost guaranteed some overlap.

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It is a successful rivalry. I am not sure what it does for them but I know we always see them at 2771's open house just before end of build and their machine and ideas usually lead to an improvement in our robot. Because our team numbers are close our pit is often next to theirs like it was at MSC. We seem to be destined to be rivals rather than alliance partners but they are good friends and if we have to lose it is not so bad when they are on the other alliance. Our team has a lot of respect for 1918, they are good people that build good robots and are not afraid to share their insights.

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Teams 364, 456, and 1927 made the finals and came extremely close to winning the Bayou Regional. We were all teams from Mississippi, with us being from Gulfport, 1927 from Biloxi, and 456 from Vicksburg.

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If it is a rivalry, it certainly isn't by choice. It just always seems to work out that we are on opposite ends of the field. The Tech Vikes are great friends of the NC Gears, and I expect it to stay that way. Eventually, fate will put us on the same side of the glass during playoffs.

PS: We did play & win together at the 2014 WMRI. 1918 won West MI in 2015, but never faced 2054 in playoffs.

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MamaSpoldi, the pleasure was all ours to be allied with 230! The GaelHawks were fantastic to work with; great attitudes from everybody that we met on the team! We'd be honored to be allied with 230 again!

Thanks for updating our list with our newest pair of alliance partners! It's kind of amazing we hadn't previously been with the CyberKnights or Apple Pi.

We'd love to be with a new pair of partners this weekend in St. Louis! (Repeats would be fine, though, too!)

You would have to remind us about that. ;) Our claw broke during autonomous when going back to pick up the 2nd ball - one more auto ball would have been enough.

However, our better robot this year is a direct result of our "finalist year" last year. I think last year's robot was actually one of our better ones, but we never won an event with it, even in the off-season. I think we had a total of 4 finalist awards with it.

As a result of wanting to do better, the students were highly motivated this year to build a more reliable robot! In some ways, coming in 2nd is more motivational than winning!

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67 and 1114 have squared off a surprising amount as well. 2014 Einstein, 2012 Archimedes Finals, 2010 Einstein, 2008 Einstein, and the 2007 Curie Semifinals.

Also as far as I know they're the only Hall of Fame teams that were on Einstein Field the year they won, 67 in 2005 and 1114 in 2012.

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Only HOT won champs Chairman's and championships the same year, 1114's only world championship to date was 2008 (perhaps that could change this week;) )