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Lil' Lavery 06-05-2014 11:45

Re: Einstein Drivetrains?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drivencrazy (Post 1383154)
Is there any historical data for this subject (Einstein Drivetrains)? I'd be interested to see how many non-tank style drives have made it to Einstein in the past.

As best as I can recall

Swerve drives on Einstein:
16 (2008, 2012)
67 (2005)
71 (2007)
111 (2003, 2009)
148 (2008)
1625 (2010)
1640 (2013, 2014)
2481 (2014)


File-card drive on Einstein:
71 (2002)

Drivetrains with drop-down wheel sets ("slide," "butterfly," etc.)
51 (2011)
148 (2013)
175?? (They have used these in the past, not sure if they did between 2003-2005)

Skid steer (tank) drives on Einstein:
Everyone else

geomapguy 06-05-2014 11:53

Re: Einstein Drivetrains?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Monochron (Post 1383227)
I really think that "butterfly" is a better name for these actuating drives. It gives a better idea of the characteristics of the drive in that it suggests quick fluttering movement. I know the original reason for naming it "butterfly" has nothing to do with that, but it works regardless.

In addition to that, "Tex Coast" makes it sound like some kind of variation on West Coast which it most certainly isn't. KOP drop center and WCD are similar in comparison to actuating drives and it follows that actuating drives should have a distinct name. Honestly I think that an actuating drive with Mechanums should also be under the class of "Butterfly" simply for nominal organization purposes. It is very convenient and efficient to refer to all actuating drives with one name and then further qualify them with what kind of wheels are in there. "Octocanum" is incredibly misleading.

Sorry to derail the thread, all these different names makes it very difficult for someone curious about different designs to actually learn about them.

Why can't people just let Texas do its own thing.....

Chris Fultz 06-05-2014 13:03

Re: Einstein Drivetrains?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1383231)
As best as I can recall

File-card drive on Einstein:
71 (2002)


My personal Favorite -

Matt_Boehm_329 06-05-2014 13:43

Re: Einstein Drivetrains?
 
What is file card drive?

Taylor 06-05-2014 13:46

Re: Einstein Drivetrains?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_Boehm_329 (Post 1383258)
What is file card drive?

File card drive. In all its glory.

Matt_Boehm_329 06-05-2014 13:59

Re: Einstein Drivetrains?
 
Ahh yes I remember hearing about that. Great idea.

sgreco 06-05-2014 14:20

Re: Einstein Drivetrains?
 
Here's a list of championships winners' drivetrains from the beginning of time. (Taken mostly from this thread, in particular Jared Russell's post http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=77412 )

I'm on my way to lunch and I don't particularly have time to fill in 2012 through 2014 (and I don't know some of the newer ones since I haven't really been on a team in a few years), but I'm sure it can be done quickly by the people in the CD community. Please also correct any inaccuracies.

2014
254 -
469 -
2848 -
74 -

2013
1477 -
619 -
1241 -

2012
16 -
180 -
25 -

2011
254 - 6 WD long
111 - 6 WD long
973 -6 WD long

2010
67 – 8 WD long
177 – 8 WD long (articulated is sets of two, front and back)
294 - 6WD long

2009
67 - 6WD wide
111 - 4 wheel crab (non-coaxial), wide
971 - 6WD wide

2008
1114 - 6WD long
217 - 6WD long
148 - three-wheeled crab (coaxial), nonagon-shaped robot

2007
177 - 6WD long
987 - 6WD long
190 - 6WD long

2006
217 - 6WD long
522 - Treads, long
296 - 2WD long, Omnis in front

2005
67 - three-wheeled crab (non-coaxial). Flop bot.
330 - 6WD long
503 – 4WD long, omniwheels in rear


2004
71 - 4WD long
494 - 4WD long
435 - 2WD long, with casters in front

2003
111 - Four-wheeled non-coaxial crab (with dropdown skid for turning)
469 – 4WD Long
65 - 4WD Wide

2002
71 - 4WD flop bot with casters in front
173 - 4WD long
66 – 4WD long

2001
71 - ?
294 - ?
125 - ?
365 - ?
279 - ?

2000
255 - ?
232 - ?
25 - ?

1999
176 - 4WD long w/ Omnis in front
1 - tank treads, long
48 – 4WD, long

1998
45 – 4WD long with Omnis in front.

1997
71 - ?

1996
73 - ?

1995
100 - ?

1994
144 - ?

1993
148 - ?

1992
126 - ?

Lil' Lavery 06-05-2014 14:40

Re: Einstein Drivetrains?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sgreco (Post 1383269)
2002
71 - 4WD flop bot with casters in front

That's not even remotely representative of how they actually used that drivetrain in competition. The factor that set it apart was the file cards on the "front" of the flop bot, that they used to "walk" downfield (once they acquired the goals) to give them incredible traction and pushing power, at the expense of the ability to steer their robot.

Alex Cormier 06-05-2014 14:46

Re: Einstein Drivetrains?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1383231)
As best as I can recall

Swerve drives on Einstein:
16 (2008, 2012)
67 (2005)
71 (2007)
111 (2003, 2009)
148 (2008)
1625 (2010)
1640 (2013, 2014)
2481 (2014)


File-card drive on Einstein:
71 (2002)

Drivetrains with drop-down wheel sets ("slide," "butterfly," etc.)
51 (2011)
148 (2013)
175?? (They have used these in the past, not sure if they did between 2003-2005)

Skid steer (tank) drives on Einstein:
Everyone else

1126 had 4wd, with 12" omni's on the front in 2004. According to shaun on 25, the only omni wheeled robot to go undefeated at the division level and hit einstein.

Nick Lawrence 06-05-2014 16:59

Re: Einstein Drivetrains?
 
2014
254 - 6WD Square
469 - Looked like 6WD square, unconfirmed
2848 - 6WD Square
74 - ???

2013
1477 - 6WD slightly long
610 - 6WD Square
1241 - 6WD Square

2012
16 - Swerve
180 - 6WD wide
25 - 6WD long

Steven Donow 06-05-2014 17:10

Re: Einstein Drivetrains?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Lawrence (Post 1383319)
2014
254 - 6WD Square
469 - Looked like 6WD square, unconfirmed
2848 - 6WD Square
74 - ???

2013
1477 - 6WD slightly long
610 - 6WD Square
1241 - 6WD Square

2012
16 - Swerve
180 - 6WD wide
25 - 6WD long

74 is 4 CIM 6wd wide

Jared Russell 06-05-2014 17:16

Re: Einstein Drivetrains?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Lawrence (Post 1383319)
2014
254 - 6WD Square
469 - Looked like 6WD square, unconfirmed
2848 - 6WD Square
74 - ???

2013
1477 - 6WD slightly long
610 - 6WD Square
1241 - 6WD Square

2012
16 - Swerve
180 - 6WD wide
25 - 6WD long

469 was 8WD square (or close to it) with 6 CIMs.


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