Re: Introducing: Colonial Robotics Championship Series
 

Is there any reason an off season event has to opt-in to count for points? If they're all about the same can't you just score any team that goes to any conventional off season?

Re: Introducing: Colonial Robotics Championship Series
 

Minimum/maximum matches played, number of teams at an event, how that number of teams affects alliance selections and elimination play, and the most bovious are scoring changes. I'm sure there is an acceptable range of variation allowed, they just need to make sure that range is intact.

Re: Introducing: Colonial Robotics Championship Series
 

We left it up for event organizers to decide. Some events decided that they did not want to add the extra competitive goal to their event and wanted to keep a completely fun atmosphere. We want to respect that decision. Some off season events like to modify the rules a bit more than others also, we don't want them to change the way that they run their events.

Re: Introducing: Colonial Robotics Championship Series
 

I was beaten to the punch here, but here are *my* reasons:

• Data collection. Events are responsible for tracking and sharing their results so that points can be awarded correctly. I suppose this could also be handled by teams if necessary.
• Goal compatibility. The off-season offers unique opportunities to teams and regions *because* of its special relaxed atmosphere. Some events have no interest in adding more competitiveness to the off-season, and we respect that.
• Cost sharing. Each participating event is chipping in for a trophy for the champion.
• Resource sharing. Events that are participating in this tournament series have set their sights on big-picture improvements to FRC, even if that means helping to grow FIRST *outside* their immediate region. They're sharing lessons learned about successes and failures and they're working together to share resources like field elements and key volunteers.

Re: Introducing: Colonial Robotics Championship Series
 

Frankly, this just doesn't make any sense. All 3rd round selection teams should obviously recieve less points than the final 2nd round selection team. As it stands, there are teams selected in the 3rd round that will earn more alliance selection points than teams selected before them. Not to mention that certain events (like Ramp Riot) randomize the back-up/4th partners.

Re: Introducing: Colonial Robotics Championship Series
 

Just a small correction on this statement.
We have never randomized the 4th partner at Ramp Riot.

Last year, for the first time, we had direct "on-field" selections for the 4th partner. In previous year's we automatically assigned the top 8 unselected teams in their order of ranking. Last year, we switched to on-field selections to give the alliance captains more freedom in the formation of their alliance.
No worries, just wanted to clarify.
Sorry to take the thread off topic.

Re: Introducing: Colonial Robotics Championship Series
 

I would say it's odd because you want to keep a philosophy of having an undefeated, zero tie record at an event in qualifications equal 24 points, AND a full run through eliminations gives you 30 points. Why not keep picking the same value but give no value to third picks? Shouldn't there be at least a solution where every event is giving out the same amount of points for this third aspect of scoring (I am assuming any awards at any event wouldn't go for points).

Re: Introducing: Colonial Robotics Championship Series
 

The organizers of the championship series acknowledge the issue and are discussing it.

Re: Introducing: Colonial Robotics Championship Series
 

On question 1: Yes, it extends in both directions. I just listed what I thought would be the most common amounts. Win in a 5-match event, it's 4.8 points. If WVROX runs 24 qualification matches, it'll be 1.0 points per win.

On question 2: Still working on the fourth robot matter. Chris has valid points, and we're trying to figure out the best way to handle the various scenarios (Championship-style or backup-style) uniformly.

Re: Introducing: Colonial Robotics Championship Series
 

Are all events going to allow in-picking within the top 8 seeds? I know Monty Madness has traditionally not allowed alliance captains to pick each other, not sure if that's changing this year.

If that continues, it makes the alliance selection points a bit distorted, especially with fewer matches at offseason events.

Re: Introducing: Colonial Robotics Championship Series
 

Just FYI, Monty Madness DID NOT allow in-picking again this year.

Re: Introducing: Colonial Robotics Championship Series
 

Any chance Roboticon will be in on this? With that event in Tampa, and Panther Prowl many Florida teams would be able to compete in this.

Sounds like a great idea!

Re: Introducing: Colonial Robotics Championship Series
 

We don't have that event on our list of events that have been contacted. Do you have contact information for the event that you could pass our way?

Re: Introducing: Colonial Robotics Championship Series
 

Ohio isn't exactly "Colonial", but I do wonder if the Mahoning Valley Robotics Challenge on 9/20 in eastern Ohio, about 10 miles away from the PA state line, would be a good fit for CRC?

I'd appreciate a PM from CRC planners to discuss further. I've informed our planning committee of this thread so we can discuss locally. Thanks!

Re: Introducing: Colonial Robotics Championship Series
 

PM sent