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While it doesn't necessarily work with everyone, calling parents and making them leave work to pick up their kid in the middle of the day for this sort of behavior can have a lasting impression on the kid and help them learn whats appropriate. Appropriate team punishments (not allowing them to letter, or at worst removing them from the team altogether) can help add additional peer pressure to help the kid change. Ultimately, I think it's behavior change we're looking for, rather than a serious legal punishment that could affect the kids entire life (something like this would have the potential to affect college admission or job opportunities down the line). |
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As stated in earlier post I think it is mandatory for not just mascots but all team members including coaches and mentors to be informed about this kind of thing. I know we had a problem once were a student from another team wouldn't not leave another one of our students alone. It got to the point that a parent had to step in and pretended to be the students mother and asked the student who was bothering our team member to leave
Also I have seen at other FIRST events where gracious professionalism was out the window by coaches and students. So I also ask that teams remember that we are all human and granted that we build robots. We sadly aren't robots so please respect the refs, judges, safety, an other FIRST personnel. Also treat teams with the utmost respect regardless of their ranking/position. We are all here to learn and have fun! ( sorry not trying to hijack thread) |
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1923 has defined behavior standards at events as well as in our build site and at outreach activities. If you don't follow them, you get a talking-to from the mentors, which may or may not involve your parents depending on the situation. (Examples: ungracious behavior, not following the mentors' instructions, being on your phone during opening/closing ceremonies or at outreach events) If you stomp-all-over-the-line and break very serious rules (think sneaking out, bringing something on the trip you're not supposed to, or just generally not being a good teammate), we call your parent/guardian, and they have to come get you. District, DCMP, or Championship - doesn't matter. You're not coming home on the bus, and you may not even be on the team anymore. Fortunately, in our 9-year history we've only had to do this once. I think inappropriate behavior such as what's being discussed in this thread would fall under this category. It's up to each team to keep this sort of culture within themselves - and I think this thread, making people aware of incidents, isn't a bad way to start spreading that message. However, if an incident really is that serious, as you mentioned above - it absolutely should go to that level. Reporting it at-the-event is the right way to go, because the event staff can help move it up the chain as necessary, including to the FIRST YPP. |
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I would like to make an observation here. Many of the people I have seen in the costumes are not trained and therefore have little or no experience. They are merely "lent" the mascot costume by their school and a student(s) is asked to volunteer to wear the costume. Consequently, the wearer often doesn't know how to handle movement in crowds and may not know where parts of the costume may make contact with animate or inanimate objects in confined spaces. Pros at theme parks are given extensive training on how to move, interact with patrons and always have a handler whispering in their ear and assisting them as they move through the park. If you think something was inappropriate, please report it. If you don't want a hug, please say "No Thank You" or simply wave as I do.
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I had an uncomfortable encounter with a highly creepy bear mascot in St. Louis. He/she/it ignored me as I escalated my protests from "No hug, thanks" to "Do not hug me" to "Leave me alone", even following me and attempting to corner me behind the inspection table. The idea of a literal bear hug might be cute, but the reality is that some people DO NOT WANT TO BE HUGGED. |
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Think of the liabilities - does a typical volunteer, mentor or teacher want to be responsible for the future actions of a person they choose to reprimand or warn rather than refer to a law enforcement officer? I had no idea things had gotten this bad (and initially advocated a nuanced approach) but I believe every report from Karthik. Harassment at FIRST events now requires an over-reaction. FIRST must get on the other side of this issue, not leave it short. (forgive the golf analogy) |
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wireties, you'll notice that I didn't say it should be handled by just any mentor, teacher or event volunteer - it needs to be handled by the appropriate event personnel - in other words, those in charge of the whole event. By bringing it to the attention of your key volunteers, they will pull in the individual(s) who need to be involved from the event (chairman of the regional planning committee, volunteer coordinator, FTA, or the ShowReady individual responsible for running the event come to mind). You don't leave it up to some random individual who happens to be manning the safety glasses table.
Those people responsible for overseeing the entire event will escalate things as appropriate, and will know/follow FIRST's guidelines for these types of incidents. Further, FIRST has incident report forms that do need to be filled out by the event personnel when something like this happens so that FIRST, as an organization, is aware of it. The last thing you want is an overeager individual calling the police and creating a large public incident without the knowledge of the event personnel. Please don't try to skirt the system that's already in place - raise the issue with the appropriate individuals at the event and allow them to follow the established process. |
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Then I would say allow him to do that - bring the issue to his attention, and encourage him to bring in the police. Regardless of the outcome, he needs to be involved from the beginning in order to manage the interaction and avoid disrupting the event. He can ensure that the police and those involved meet in a more private area to handle things, rather than just calling them in and having it all explode in the pits. We really have to make sure that we're looking at this both from the stand point of addressing the issue AND keeping the event running smoothly, and that would be one of his roles if the police are needed.
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The Event Managers and RDs have oodles and oodles of documentation on what to do in cases like these, and that's exactly why they're the right people to go to. |
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Not doing so brings to mind the Penn State incident of a couple years ago. Allegations were made, but the officials refused to escalate the situation. In that case, it falls to the observers to make sure something is done. |
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There are a lot of great ideas in this thread. I would caution having a mentor or teacher or FIRST representative forced to exercise judgment or authority where, in fact, none exists. That rarely ends well. Start with a person who does have the authority. I'm not talking about squad cars pulling up in front of the building and stopping the proceedings. I'm talking about hired officers who are already integrated with the event leadership team. |
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