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Andrew Schreiber 02-09-2014 21:06
Re: [FRC Blog] 2015 Events are Being Posted!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 1398759)
Week 7:
NE District Championship Worcester Polytechnic Institute (WPI) Worcester, MA USA 08-Apr - 11-Apr-2015
Yuck.

Jessica Boucher 02-09-2014 21:10
Re: [FRC Blog] 2015 Events are Being Posted!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 1398777)
Why don't the districts have names? Are we moving to a Hunger Games style naming convention?
Consistent names make for easier hunting in a long list of alphabetical events.

Additionally, when I went through the exercise of giving the events custom names last year, I never could come up with enough good names. The best one was still North Dumpling, IMO.

Alan Anderson 03-09-2014 00:11
Re: [FRC Blog] 2015 Events are Being Posted!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Hill (Post 1398754)
I've always wondered how an FRC in Memorial Gym (in Kokomo) would work out. (It's at my middle school/high school gym). I really wonder where all the pits are going to be.
The area where the swimming pool used to be is now a gymnasium owned by the IU Kokomo Cougars. I'm pretty sure 40 10'x10' pits can fit in there, but without much room left over for inspection and spare parts and pit administration. We'll find a place for everything.

who716 03-09-2014 00:28
Re: [FRC Blog] 2015 Events are Being Posted!
 
YES!!! WPI puts on some of the best robotics event in the country very very very very happy to see the district championship get moved to there, Also ecstatic to see an event in Waterbury week one that is like our home town event now, and the team loves week one event, best calendar NEFIRST could have possibly come up with

jwfoss 03-09-2014 06:58
Re: [FRC Blog] 2015 Events are Being Posted!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 1398759)
NEFIRST Schedule is up. 10 Total districts plus district Championship which has moved to WPI. No competitions during week 6!


Week 1:
NE District Event #1 Nashua South High School Nashua, NH USA 26-Feb - 28-Feb-2015

NE District Event #2 Wilby High School Waterbury, CT USA 27-Feb - 01-Mar-2015

Week 2:
NE District Event #3 Mass Mutual Center Springfield, MA USA 05-Mar - 07-Mar-2015

NE District Event #4 Reading High School - Field House Reading, MA USA 06-Mar - 08-Mar-2015

Week 3:
NE District Event #6 UMass Dartmouth - Tripp Athletic Center North Dartmouth, MA USA 12-Mar - 14-Mar-2015

NE District Event #5 Androscoggin Bank Colisee Lewiston, ME USA 12-Mar - 14-Mar-2015

Week 4:
NE District Event #7 UNH Durham - Whittemore Center Arena Durham, NH USA 20-Mar - 22-Mar-2015

NE District Event #8 Bryant University - Chace Athletic Center Smithfield, RI USA 20-Mar - 22-Mar-2015

Week 5:
NE District Event #9 Northeastern University - Matthews Arena Boston, MA USA 26-Mar - 28-Mar-2015

NE District Event #10 Hartford Public High School Hartford, CT USA 27-Mar - 29-Mar-2015

Week 7:
NE District Championship Worcester Polytechnic Institute (WPI) Worcester, MA USA 08-Apr - 11-Apr-2015

I'm happy to see the Week 6 break and the continued Sat-Sun format for a large number of Districts, I am disappointed however to see that some of the Districts were lost from last year. Only having two Districts in CT seems unbalanced to me, even with the additional district overall.

2015 District Allocation
CT - 2
MA - 4 + Championships
RI - 1
NH - 2
VT - 0
ME - 1

2014 District Allocation
CT - 3
MA - 2 + Championships
RI - 1
NH - 2
VT - 0
ME - 1

Number of Team in 2014
CT - 52
MA - 86
RI - 8
NH - 39
VT - 3
ME - 19

Rosiebotboss 03-09-2014 09:00
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jwfoss-If it makes you feel any better, the Springfield event is only about 4 miles from the CT border.

Just saying...

BrendanB 03-09-2014 09:02
Re: [FRC Blog] 2015 Events are Being Posted!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwfoss (Post 1398832)
I'm happy to see the Week 6 break and the continued Sat-Sun format for a large number of Districts, I am disappointed however to see that some of the Districts were lost from last year. Only having two Districts in CT seems unbalanced to me, even with the additional district overall.

2015 District Allocation
CT - 2
MA - 4 + Championships
RI - 1
NH - 2
VT - 0
ME - 1

2014 District Allocation
CT - 3
MA - 2 + Championships
RI - 1
NH - 2
VT - 0
ME - 1

Number of Team in 2014
CT - 52
MA - 86
RI - 8
NH - 39
VT - 3
ME - 19
Agreed. Its nice to see us condensed down to five weeks. It would have been nice to see the DCMP moved to week six but I think having a week between the events will help as teams will have a better idea of where they stand going into WPI so they have time to plan or research travel options for St. Louis.

I think the reasoning behind putting more events in MA aside from it having more teams is that most of the MA events are still close enough to border states it is still easy for teams to commute into the state on a daily basis. The Reading event is 30-45 minutes for teams in the SNH area. Similarly the new Springfield event (which technically the place of WPI) will be about 30 minutes for teams on the northern side of Hartford. Not a perfect solution but hopefully CT teams don't have to travel too far.

Andrew Schreiber 03-09-2014 09:58
Re: [FRC Blog] 2015 Events are Being Posted!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwfoss (Post 1398832)
Number of Team in 2014
CT - 52
MA - 86
RI - 8
NH - 39
VT - 3
ME - 19
I agree with Foss, CT SHOULD have 3 events based on 2014 distribution.

207 teams in NEFIRST in 2014

CT 25% 3 Events
MA 42% 4 Events
RI 4% 0 Events
NH 19% 2 Events
VT 1% 0 Events
ME 9% 1 Event

Would be the logical distribution. When I get home I'll see if I can compute average commute distances to the nearest two districts. It's possible that, like most things in NE, state lines are kinda silly distinctions.


Edit: Commute distances aren't happening tonight. Data is loaded, I'm pretty sure of the query I need to run but I'm still wrapping my head around postgis.

Rosiebotboss 03-09-2014 10:56
Re: [FRC Blog] 2015 Events are Being Posted!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1398842)
I agree with Foss, CT SHOULD have 3 events based on 2014 distribution.

207 teams in NEFIRST in 2014

CT 25% 3 Events
MA 42% 4 Events
RI 4% 0 Events
NH 19% 2 Events
VT 1% 0 Events
ME 9% 1 Event

Would be the logical distribution. When I get home I'll see if I can compute average commute distances to the nearest two districts. It's possible that, like most things in NE, state lines are kinda silly distinctions.
Does it really matter? We are all NE FIRST. The only thing that should matter is that there are 10 events evenly distributed. Or at least pretty close to equal mileage to the concentrations of teams. ..."state lines are kinda silly distinctions."

Andrew Schreiber 03-09-2014 11:23
Re: [FRC Blog] 2015 Events are Being Posted!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosiebotboss (Post 1398848)
Does it really matter? We are all NE FIRST. The only thing that should matter is that there are 10 events evenly distributed. Or at least pretty close to equal mileage to the concentrations of teams. ..."state lines are kinda silly distinctions."
State lines are, for the most part, silly distinctions. Except when it comes to some school travel policies having extra rules for out of state travel.

As I said, I'm going to do some digging on whether this distribution is actually better later (I hope).

Roger 03-09-2014 11:54
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state lines are kinda silly distinctions
Make sure you bring that up at FIRST's next "What Events Are In My Area" website design meeting, where you have to re-click e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g to find out what's happening in my multi-state District event :confused:

Brandon Holley 03-09-2014 12:45
Re: [FRC Blog] 2015 Events are Being Posted!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1398853)
State lines are, for the most part, silly distinctions. Except when it comes to some school travel policies having extra rules for out of state travel.
I think this is the important point. While events may have been shifted from one state to another, geographically I feel like NEFIRST has done a better job of spreading events out evenly around the highly FRC populated areas. We should look at New England as a whole and not arbitrary state boundaries.

The state travel rule is a factor, however for New England schools and FRC teams this is not a new requirement. The states here are small, its difficult to drive an hour in any direction in certain parts of New England without crossing a border. I think many teams and schools understand this constraint and know how to deal with it.

-Brando

feverittm 03-09-2014 12:51
Re: [FRC Blog] 2015 Events are Being Posted!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Metonym (Post 1398773)
I'm almost certain the FIRSTWA staff knows that the new DCMP site is sub-optimal, but you have to consider how sustainable the Portland site was for them. FIRSTWA has to fundraise all the money for the event site every year.
Yes, however I thought that Autodesk paid for (and therefore got the naming rights) most of the venue cost? Portland was actually one of the cheaper venues available outside of a academic location.

Kimmeh 03-09-2014 13:05
Re: [FRC Blog] 2015 Events are Being Posted!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1398780)
6 years later...
Oh Lord. Michigan has been doing districts for six years. Did not realize it's been that long.

Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1398781)
I would guess it was because the districts moved around a lot. They'd move, they'd change names. They'd sometimes not bother moving before changing names. As a Fantasy FIRST player, it was always tough keeping districts straight between years. Not to mention the late-adding districts (Michigan, I'm lookin' at you).
Heck, it's tough keeping track of them as a Michigan resident. The only one I'm ever consistently sure about is Kettering because that's on campus for me... There's something nice to be said for events that are five minutes from your room...

BrendanB 03-09-2014 13:18
Re: [FRC Blog] 2015 Events are Being Posted!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Holley (Post 1398861)
I think this is the important point. While events may have been shifted from one state to another, geographically I feel like NEFIRST has done a better job of spreading events out evenly around the highly FRC populated areas. We should look at New England as a whole and not arbitrary state boundaries.

The state travel rule is a factor, however for New England schools and FRC teams this is not a new requirement. The states here are small, its difficult to drive an hour in any direction in certain parts of New England without crossing a border. I think many teams and schools understand this constraint and know how to deal with it.

-Brando
Agreed. There is also a difference between an overnight trip and a day field trip of which many NEFIRST teams can realistically commute to their out of state competitions. We commuted to the DCMP this past year and are planning to commute to both of our district competitions whether they are in New Hampshire or Massachusetts.

Let's also not forget that last year CT teams were some of the only teams able to compete at two-three competitions in their own state. Both New Hampshire events were week 1 and week 2 meaning all but two teams traveled out of state to compete or be forced to compete back to back in the beginning of the season when robots/teams usually aren't ready. Massachusetts was doable in weeks 3 and 5 but demand filled both of those events fast.

For those of us who are competing in the southern half of the district (CT, MA, RI, and SNH) keep in mind that there are plenty of teams in Vermont, Nothern New Hampshire, and Maine who are forced to travel hours to just get to one event.


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