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Bryce Paputa 27-06-2014 08:02

pic: Frog Force 503 Leapfrog Drivetrain
 

z_beeblebrox 27-06-2014 08:04

Re: pic: Frog Force 503 Leapfrog Drivetrain
 
Very nice.

How do you maintain chain tension when raising or lowering the outside wheel?

cad321 27-06-2014 10:36

Re: pic: Frog Force 503 Leapfrog Drivetrain
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by z_beeblebrox (Post 1391328)
Very nice.

How do you maintain chain tension when raising or lowering the outside wheel?

Assuming that the chain shares the same axle that the module pivots on, In theory it should have the same tension in both positions. This is because it's moving on an arc with a constant radius so the distance between the wheel and the pivot point never change.

Thats my understanding of it anyways. Please do correct me if I'm wrong.

Greg Woelki 27-06-2014 14:48

Re: pic: Frog Force 503 Leapfrog Drivetrain
 
Could we have a closer look at the gearboxes?

Aren Siekmeier 27-06-2014 18:52

Re: pic: Frog Force 503 Leapfrog Drivetrain
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cad321 (Post 1391340)
Assuming that the chain shares the same axle that the module pivots on, In theory it should have the same tension in both positions. This is because it's moving on an arc with a constant radius so the distance between the wheel and the pivot point never change.

Thats my understanding of it anyways. Please do correct me if I'm wrong.

Seems unlikely, since the chain runs between two wheels, neither of which is on the module pivot. I'm guessing the arc that the omni follows closely approximates a circular arc that maintains chain length. Since the omni doesn't have to move very far, I'm thinking this can be close enough (though I haven't run any numbers).

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Originally Posted by Greg Woelki (Post 1391367)
Could we have a closer look at the gearboxes?

I believe they are these.

Bryce Paputa 28-06-2014 08:11

Re: pic: Frog Force 503 Leapfrog Drivetrain
 
The chain run will lose .07 inches of length when in the up position, if this becomes an issue, we will add a spring tensioner to it. The gearboxes are a slightly modified version of the earlier posted one, the final version is at http://frcdesigns.com/designs-gearbox/

apalrd 30-06-2014 17:57

Re: pic: Frog Force 503 Leapfrog Drivetrain
 
Way back when we ran an articulating drivetrain in 2011, we designed it so that the chain length was identical in the up and down position but it got a bit of slack while moving. We deemed this to be acceptable and never had any issues.

Electronica1 30-06-2014 20:57

Re: pic: Frog Force 503 Leapfrog Drivetrain
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by apalrd (Post 1391677)
Way back when we ran an articulating drivetrain in 2011, we designed it so that the chain length was identical in the up and down position but it got a bit of slack while moving. We deemed this to be acceptable and never had any issues.

This is the same way my teams octocanum works. It rotates in the opposite direction as the way you have your module and only untensions for a brief amount of time. As long as the sprockets are aligned it won't fail (unless you use it for 10 demos without maintenance over the summer and break the chain itself).


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