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Ether 15-07-2014 12:43

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Originally Posted by s_forbes (Post 1393097)
Where's Ether?

MIA I guess :-)

I agree with Adam's analysis with one minor quibble: with 2x stall current you may not get 2x stall torque. Depending on the motor design, the magnetics may saturate before that. Does anyone have stall torque test data for CIM at 24 volts?



AdamHeard 15-07-2014 13:23

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Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1393254)
MIA I guess :-)

I agree with Adam's analysis with one minor quibble: with 2x stall current you may not get 2x stall torque. Depending on the motor design, the magnetics may saturate before that. Does anyone have stall torque test data for CIM at 24 volts?



Very fair point, and rather likely actually (that saturation occurs, leading to less than 2x but greater than 1x usual stall torque).

AdamHeard 22-07-2014 14:30

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1393257)
Very fair point, and rather likely actually (that saturation occurs, leading to less than 2x but greater than 1x usual stall torque).


Also worth pointing out that in especially regards to drive with so many paired motors, you will have 4 or more motors trying to draw near double stall current, over 1000 Amps for 4 cims. This will cause a large voltage drop, until the current draw reaches an equilibrium with that. This will greatly reduce the Torque.

My hunch is you will still experience greater than 1x Stall torque at nominal voltage, but not the classical 2x I originally stated.

magnets 22-07-2014 16:30

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1393984)
Also worth pointing out that in especially regards to drive with so many paired motors, you will have 4 or more motors trying to draw near double stall current, over 1000 Amps for 4 cims. This will cause a large voltage drop, until the current draw reaches an equilibrium with that. This will greatly reduce the Torque.

My hunch is you will still experience greater than 1x Stall torque at nominal voltage, but not the classical 2x I originally stated.

Your hunch is definitely right. A robot that doesn't have enough torque to spin its wheels when its up against a wall can break traction with the ground if you try to stop it too quickly.


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