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Karthik 22-07-2014 22:07

Team 1114: Engineering Notebooks
 
Team 1114 is proud to release our engineering notebooks from the past two seasons. You may have seen hard copies of the documents in our pits at Championships, and now we've put them online for everyone to see:

Simbot Evolution - Engineering Notebook
Simbot B.A. Baracus - Engineering Notebook

These documents provide specific details on our various mechanisms and subsystems, as well as some insight into the prototyping and development process that lead to the final versions. They serve as a natural complement to our recently released CAD archives.

If you have questions about these notebooks, you can post them here, or you can contact our team using the form at http://www.simbotics.org/about/contact

Mike Marandola 22-07-2014 23:04

Re: Team 1114: Engineering Notebooks
 
What paint-on urethane did you guys use for the intake roller? Did it ever have to be reapplied?

Karthik 22-07-2014 23:24

Re: Team 1114: Engineering Notebooks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Marandola (Post 1394034)
What paint-on urethane did you guys use for the intake roller? Did it ever have to be reapplied?

http://www.smooth-on.com/Urethane-Ru...151/index.html

We used the 50A. The rollers were replaced at various points in the season, but not necessarily because of wear. One of our pit crew members can probably give a better response, but in general we've had very little issue with wear when it comes to the paint on urethane.

thatprogrammer 23-07-2014 01:05

Re: Team 1114: Engineering Notebooks
 
All this love for the mechanical side of things. No code for us programmers? :)

RKazmer 23-07-2014 06:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thatprogrammer (Post 1394042)
All this love for the mechanical side of things. No code for us programmers? :)

Or a good picture inside to see the electronics?

Brandon Ha 23-07-2014 09:12

Re: Team 1114: Engineering Notebooks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RKazmer (Post 1394049)
Or a good picture inside to see the electronics?

I'm with him... We are hungry for inside details...::ouch:: :yikes:

EDIT: Or her sorry :)

DampRobot 23-07-2014 15:32

Re: Team 1114: Engineering Notebooks
 
Thanks for posting, especially the 2013 notebook. Your climber absolutely astounded me when I first saw it, it was such an out of the box solution to such a difficult engineering challenge.

ElvisMom 23-07-2014 16:56

Re: Team 1114: Engineering Notebooks
 
NEMO here looking for insights on how you create the notebook, not the robot
--How do you capture the details during build season - frequency of updates, form (google drive, evernote, paper and pencil)
--Who is responsible for capture during season
--Who does the post production
--Etc.

It's a thing of beauty, and the robots are too.

davepowers 24-07-2014 09:48

Re: Team 1114: Engineering Notebooks
 
Awesome stuff, thanks for posting this! There's a ton of useful info in these!

DP

akoscielski3 24-07-2014 11:03

Re: Team 1114: Engineering Notebooks
 
The notebooks contain some specific details we used to program the robot. Such as how controlled the claw and how our auto is/was ran (hot goal).

Also we do specify what type of sensors are used for controlling the robot. Like what we used to control the position of the claw.

Showing a picture of an "electronics board" would be difficult. At least for this year, the electronics weren't designated to a board, theres some of them on the belly pan, some on the back of the super structure of the claw, and in other parts of the robot. We put them where they are accessible and where there is room for them. It's not messy though, we make sure the students learn and understand how to properly wire and organize the wires to keep it all neat. However it's not like we put the Crio in the very front and the side car on the top of the claw. It's organized in a logical way.

Edit: Another thing we do is try to keep the wires for the electrical as short as possible to improve efficiency. The shorter the wire the less resistance there is in it, making the robot more efficient. For example, we kept most of the VEX Pro Victor 888's on the super structure for the claw, close to the drive motors, and close to the claw motors. That way we would be more efficient while driving, moving the claw, and while shooting.

Giffgiff27 24-07-2014 15:04

Re: Team 1114: Engineering Notebooks
 
How much weight do you have in gearboxes? And how much does your robot weigh now after competition with you arm for blocking and everything else you added?

who716 24-07-2014 20:57

Re: Team 1114: Engineering Notebooks
 
every year you guys impress me I always try to think what would simbotics do unfortunately our solution aren't always the same

Karthik 24-07-2014 21:47

Re: Team 1114: Engineering Notebooks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ElvisMom (Post 1394136)
NEMO here looking for insights on how you create the notebook, not the robot
--How do you capture the details during build season - frequency of updates, form (google drive, evernote, paper and pencil)
--Who is responsible for capture during season
--Who does the post production
--Etc.

It's a thing of beauty, and the robots are too.

The "Engineering Notebook" is not a true engineering notebook in the sense that it's almost entirely created after the fact. The students typically go back through our CAD, photo, and video archives, to find the material for the notebook and to reconstruct the full story. This post production process for the past two years had been led by our lead mechanical student, with the assistance of a variety of other students.

ToddF 24-07-2014 22:35

Re: Team 1114: Engineering Notebooks
 
Care to comment on the effectiveness of the drop down omni wheels in negating the T-bone defense? Did the drivers actually use them? Were they worth the trouble?

BenB 25-07-2014 11:13

Re: Team 1114: Engineering Notebooks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Giffgiff27 (Post 1394221)
How much weight do you have in gearboxes? And how much does your robot weigh now after competition with you arm for blocking and everything else you added?

We don't usually weigh sub-systems unless we are bringing them as a part of our withholding allowance to a competition or we are looking to add/remove it from our robot, so we don't have an accurate weight for our gearboxes.

At the end of build season, our robot was about 10lbs underweight, so we added some steel blocks to the base plate to help lower our CoG and bring us up to 120lbs. The goalie stick weighed about 5lbs, so we took out some of the steel blocks when we added it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToddF (Post 1394288)
Care to comment on the effectiveness of the drop down omni wheels in negating the T-bone defense? Did the drivers actually use them? Were they worth the trouble?

The drop down omni wheels weren't as effective as we were expecting. When we were designing the drivetrain this year, we didn't know exactly what the rest of the robot was going to look like yet, so we made a strategic decision to put them on the back of our robot. The thought was that if we spun out of a t-bone around the front of our robot (since that is where our traction wheels would be), we would be on the offensive side of the defender after getting out the the t-bone, making it more difficult for the defender to re-engage.

Unfortunately our robot's CoG ended up being toward the back, meaning that most of the weight was on the omni wheels instead of our traction wheels, which meant we didn't have much traction when trying to spin out of a t-bone. As a result, that weren't very effective for us, and we rarely used them. I believe there is potential for them to be more effective, so we may try to use them again in the future.


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