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Raymundo N 25-08-2014 14:16

Finding the thred size of a 3/4in. bore Bimba piston
 
Hello,

I am trying to print a mounting for a piston on a Maker Bot(3D printer). For this i need to know how to find the size of the mounting thread of the front of a 3/4 inch Bimba(brand) piston. If anyone knows the answer or how to find it please help.

JamesCH95 25-08-2014 14:21

Re: Finding the thred size of a 3/4in. bore Bimba piston
 
Look it up on www.McMaster.com or www.bimba.com -> http://www.bimba.com/Products-and-Ca...Line-Cylinder/

I believe the correct answer is 1/4-28

R.C. 25-08-2014 14:21

Re: Finding the thred size of a 3/4in. bore Bimba piston
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymundo N (Post 1397933)
Hello,

I am trying to print a mounting for a piston on a Maker Bot(3D printer). For this i need to know how to find the size of the mounting thread of the front of a 3/4 inch Bimba(brand) piston. If anyone knows the answer or how to find it please help.

On my phone but just go to McMaster and type in air cylinder. Filter by 3/4 bore and some stroke size. Click product detail and it'll call out the thread size. Same can be done with other size cylinders.

You can also go to the Bimba site and get the same info.

Knufire 25-08-2014 14:22

Re: Finding the thred size of a 3/4in. bore Bimba piston
 
http://www.bimba.com/Products-and-Ca...Line-Cylinder/

Fill in the information (bore, stroke, double vs single acting, etc) about the cylinder, and hit the dimensions tab.

Raymundo N 25-08-2014 14:34

Re: Finding the thred size of a 3/4in. bore Bimba piston
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R.C. (Post 1397935)
On my phone but just go to McMaster and type in air cylinder. Filter by 3/4 bore and some stroke size. Click product detail and it'll call out the thread size. Same can be done with other size cylinders.

You can also go to the Bimba site and get the same info.

Ok Thanks, McMaster helped.
And just making sure (1/2'' - 20) means that there are 20 lines of thread in 1/2'' right???

Taylor 25-08-2014 14:37

Re: Finding the thred size of a 3/4in. bore Bimba piston
 
That is incorrect. 1/2 is the diameter and 20 is the number of threads in a full longitudinal inch.

Oblarg 25-08-2014 14:40

Re: Finding the thred size of a 3/4in. bore Bimba piston
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymundo N (Post 1397937)
Ok Thanks, McMaster helped.
And just making sure (1/2'' - 20) means that there are 20 lines of thread in 1/2'' right???

Not quite.

Standard bolt sizes are notated as "diameter - threads per inch", so 1/2'' - 20 is a 1/2'' diameter bolt with 20 threads per inch.

Note that for smaller sizes, the first number may be given without units (such as "10-32"). This refers to machine screw size, (in this case, a #10), and if you want to know the diameter in inches you can just look it up (in this case, it'd be ~.19''). It helps to have a wall chart in your build space for this.

Raymundo N 25-08-2014 14:41

Re: Finding the thred size of a 3/4in. bore Bimba piston
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 1397938)
That is incorrect. 1/2 is the diameter and 20 is the number of threads in a full longitudinal inch.

Oh ok well that makes more sense. Now im measuring the diameter of the piston mounting tread and from the part without thread i get .54 inches and where the thread is i get .61 inches. Does that make a difference?

Raymundo N 25-08-2014 14:52

Re: Finding the thred size of a 3/4in. bore Bimba piston
 
I also feel like i need more information in order to actually draw the thread into the mounting in Solidworks. Does anyone have any ideas on how to do this?

JamesCH95 25-08-2014 15:01

Re: Finding the thred size of a 3/4in. bore Bimba piston
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymundo N (Post 1397941)
I also feel like i need more information in order to actually draw the thread into the mounting in Solidworks. Does anyone have any ideas on how to do this?

Use the "Hole Wizard" tool, it has all the information needed.

Trent B 25-08-2014 15:03

Re: Finding the thred size of a 3/4in. bore Bimba piston
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymundo N (Post 1397941)
I also feel like i need more information in order to actually draw the thread into the mounting in Solidworks. Does anyone have any ideas on how to do this?

Solidworks should have a threaded hole feature built in, where you can select the thread type (if it is actually .61 it may be a 5/8" bolt at .625)

You just need to measure the major diameter (largest diameter you can get (so include threads) and the threads per inch. Then you should be able to use the threaded hole tool. Tell it it is a 5/8 - 24 bolt (or whatever it actually is) and how deep you want the hole to go, and it will draw the threads visually.

To actually get the three-dimensional model of the threads so it can print on a 3d printer you will have to go through a complicated process of drawing the profile and revolving it in a helical manner at 1/24" per revolution.

It may be easier to print the hole to the appropriate tap size In which case you would create a hole of that size in solidworks, so it is printed, then tap the threads into it. I suspect your printer may have difficulty providing enough resolution to make clean, strong threads.

Jon Stratis 25-08-2014 15:17

Re: Finding the thred size of a 3/4in. bore Bimba piston
 
With my team's makerbot, we've always printed to tap into it for bolts. The default wall thickness is 2, but I like to double that to 4 layers for the taps - you want to make sure there is enough material there to hold.

sanddrag 25-08-2014 15:49

Re: Finding the thred size of a 3/4in. bore Bimba piston
 
Just to clarify, virtually every 3/4" bore cylinder I have ever used (primarily Bimba) in the United States has been a 1/4-28 UNF thread on the rod.

Trent B 25-08-2014 16:10

Re: Finding the thred size of a 3/4in. bore Bimba piston
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sanddrag (Post 1397947)
Just to clarify, virtually every 3/4" bore cylinder I have ever used (primarily Bimba) in the United States has been a 1/4-28 UNF thread on the rod.

Yeah, it seems a bit big, 0.61" might be referring to either the threads on either cylinder endcap for affixing it?

AdamHeard 25-08-2014 16:13

Re: Finding the thred size of a 3/4in. bore Bimba piston
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trent B (Post 1397948)
Yeah, it seems a bit big, 0.61" might be referring to either the threads on either cylinder endcap for affixing it?

Yup, that's a .625-18 on those cylinders.

BBray_T1296 25-08-2014 16:54

Re: Finding the thred size of a 3/4in. bore Bimba piston
 
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Bimba already has a CAD file of the Clevis you are trying to make

EDIT: well it is missing the threads, but here


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