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Hallry

27-08-2014 15:33

[FRC Blog] FRC Community Tools Developers Conference for FMS API

Posted on the FRC Blog, 8/27/14: http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...ce-for-FMS-API

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FRC Community Tools Developers Conference for FMS API

Blog Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 - 14:59

Please see the note below from the FRC Engineering Team:

There are so many community developed tools that FRC teams and fans use throughout the season to keep tabs on their favorite teams and events, way too many to list. Until now, developers of those tools have been forced to scrape webpages or Twitter feeds for the data. This is not the best way for us to make the needed data available to those developers, and we want to change it.

Developing an API to allow developers access to event data is one of our key goals for this season. But, we want to make sure we’re getting developers the data they need in the way they need it. So, we’re going to be hosting an FRC Community Tools Developers Conference. This conference will give the FRC staff members developing the API the chance to hear directly from the users to ensure it’s everything we want it to be.

The conference is tentatively scheduled for the week of September 15, using an online tool like GoToMeeting.

If you have developed a tool and want to be a part of the conference, please fill out this survey telling us your name, email address, and the community tool you’d like to use the API for. The survey also asks what time of day works best for you. Once we’ve collected names, we’ll nail down an exact day and time. We’ll also send out a follow-up survey to pre-collect questions to be answered during the event. Please fill out the participation survey by 9/5.

AllenGregoryIV

27-08-2014 15:41

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Probably one of my favorite announcements of the summer. I love that they are embracing all the work the community has already done and working to make it easy for them to get better information.

Now if we could find away to ensure high quality video out of every event, I would be a very happy man.

AustinShalit

27-08-2014 16:12

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It is great to know FIRST is listening to community requests. This and the new FMS Lite are great things that the community should have access to.

Clinton Bolinger

27-08-2014 16:14

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Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1398188)

Now if we could find away to ensure high quality video out of every event, I would be a very happy man.

+3847

-Clinton-

Jon Stratis

27-08-2014 16:24

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I'm really looking forward to this. I'm hoping we can utilize this to make calculating rankings (specifically for the MN State Championship, but also applies to districts, I would think) easier and less error prone.

Jim Zondag

27-08-2014 16:45

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This is great, I am very happy to see this happening.

rcmolloy

27-08-2014 16:51

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I mentioned the likelihood of this happening to Adam last night while we realized that the twitter feed wasn't the best for what we wanted. He said it was likely but not guaranteed.

With this announcement, I am super excited to have the potential of grabbing all data that we need to make OPR even more accurate without having to deal with a least square regression for estimation.

Hopefully I will be able to attend the meeting.

Tom Bottiglieri

27-08-2014 17:45

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Woah, awesome!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvMQWte5pik

AdamHeard

27-08-2014 17:52

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I'd like raw access to the sub scores; auto, tele, assists, whatever for each game.

Eugene Fang

27-08-2014 17:55

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1398207)

I'd like raw access to the sub scores; auto, tele, assists, whatever for each game.

You will at Chezy Champs. :)

Andrew Schreiber

27-08-2014 18:40

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Approximate locations for teams AND events. Honestly, city level data would be great.

Basel A

27-08-2014 19:18

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Looking forward to (and really hoping for) positive results from this meeting. I have a feeling all the requests will overwhelm them, but FIRST has been behind the times on this, so to some degree they deserve it.

Nemo	27-08-2014 22:37

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This is awesome. I don't know how to interface with an API, but I am definitely the type of person who appreciates cool data when it becomes more accessible and detailed.

karomata

28-08-2014 10:04

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This is awesome! Scouting will get a whole lot easier!

Jessica Boucher

28-08-2014 11:19

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YAAAAAAAAAS

username115

30-08-2014 11:08

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This is something I've been waiting for. Looking forward to the conference.

plnyyanks

18-09-2014 18:17

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The conference is live now, for those of you who can't make it, I'm keeping some quick notes here

scca229

18-09-2014 18:27

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Originally Posted by plnyyanks (Post 1400593)

The conference is live now, for those of you who can't make it, I'm keeping some quick notes here

Thanks! Looking great.

SoftwareBug2.0

18-09-2014 18:29

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Has anyone else had the meeting program lock up their machine?

forbes

19-09-2014 00:57

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Thanks for sharing your notes.

g_sawchuk

19-09-2014 12:19

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Originally Posted by SoftwareBug2.0 (Post 1400599)

Has anyone else had the meeting program lock up their machine?

This didn't happen to me, maybe the software is incompatible with your computer? Collin also said that he'd be releasing the audio recording of the conference, so anyone who didn't attend can listen to it later. I can probably answer some questions as well if anyone has some.

Jon Stratis

19-09-2014 12:27

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Originally Posted by SoftwareBug2.0 (Post 1400599)

Has anyone else had the meeting program lock up their machine?

Didn't happen to me... I listened to the whole thing through an app on my phone - it worked out quite well, and let drive around doing other stuff I had planned for the day.

Overall, I think they're taking the right approach with the whole project, and can't wait to test it out.

SoftwareBug2.0

20-09-2014 13:26

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Originally Posted by GrifBot (Post 1400705)

I'm not sure why it would be incompatible with my computer. I was on using Windows 7 on a pretty average Dell laptop. On the positive side, the sound quality was good.

I'm looking forward to the recording. The notes in the Google doc were also helpful.

techboi

08-10-2014 22:54

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For those that weren't at the online webinar, they said we should sign up on this website for announcements instead of emails:

https://usfirst.collab.net/sf/projec...ty_developers/

And it looks like the first announcement is up!

https://usfirst.collab.net/sf/frs/do..._documentation

Doug Frisk

08-10-2014 23:59

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Originally Posted by techboi (Post 1403530)

Looks very nice. I'll be exercising that in the morning.

Andrew Schreiber

09-10-2014 10:55

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Originally Posted by DareDad (Post 1403540)

Looks very nice. I'll be exercising that in the morning.

Wouldn't bother. Data is garbage. But it's useful for stubbing out apps :) Time to fire up the editor and build something.

Doug Frisk

09-10-2014 13:22

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Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1403592)

Wouldn't bother. Data is garbage. But it's useful for stubbing out apps :) Time to fire up the editor and build something.

I expect the data to be garbage at this point. Hopefully they'll take a couple of regionals and a couple of district events from last year and republish them using the new format.

Andrew Schreiber

09-10-2014 13:27

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Originally Posted by DareDad (Post 1403629)

I expect the data to be garbage at this point. Hopefully they'll take a couple of regionals and a couple of district events from last year and republish them using the new format.

Mmk, just wanted to make sure you didn't go into it expecting real data.

plnyyanks

09-10-2014 14:04

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I'm pretty impressed with what's up so far. It seems the spec covers all the data that I could feasibly want (and more!).

There's really only two feature requests I can think of (which I'll put up on the tracker at some point):
- It would be nice to have a single endpoint to get all of an event's matches, with score data when available. Currently, it seems like I'd have to do a request to get the event schedule and then do a second request for the results and overlay the two. It shouldn't be too bad to have an endpoint just like the results one, but returns all matches and nulls out the scores for the unplayed ones.
- Push notifications would be awesome. But I understand those aren't a high priority at the beginning. Just keep them in mind for later while designing the system

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