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Mark, have you put together any kind of graph that shows growth and retention rates over the last 5-10 years? Wonder if we'll look back on registration this year as an anomaly or as part of a plateau of overall growth and increased retention (ie the "market" of FRC team development has matured under the traditional regional model). Conversely, does the 2014 season look like an anomaly over the last half-decade?
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Here are the team growth and year-to-year retention (corrected for resurrected vets) charts from the beginning.
Retention is the highest that it has ever been. Really, it's just the new team growth that's down this year. Hard to tell if that's the fault of marketing, outreach or something else. I wouldn't describe it as a "plateau." |
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Question that is a little off topic the current subject about growth. How can F.I.R.S.T. close registration when they have not cleaned up their wait list? We have been on the wait list since the first day of registering for a second event. We have not heard from first about the wait list, where we stand or even if we have a chance to get in. We would like to go to a second event. It will really hurt our young program not to. We could register at a 3rd event that has a shorter wait list but will that hurt our chances at our first choice wait list? After they clean up the wait list can you still call and get registered at an event that is not full?
On a side not I have talked to a few teams in our area and it seems that many of them are having a harder time registering for a second event. Is anyone else seeing this? Any advice on this? |
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Thanks for the reply. That has been done. I got a pretty stock reply that there is a long wait list and there would be plenty of unhappy teams. There were no details given about numbers, when they would know etc. |
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Some of the factors that do typically weigh in to whether you get off the waitlist or not include team age, location, and how many events you are registered (not waitlisted) for. If you happen to get into the "third" event before the "second" one re-evaluates your position on the waitlist, then you will likely be given lower priority for the "second" one. |
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Just an opinion, but that reply sounds like you won't get in to that event.
Rather than just randomly signing up for a third event, I would start directly contacting the RD's of several other events that you might be interested in and asking them about the chances of switching to their event. Scattered teams have dropped out of events as they don't get funding or for whatever reason, so some events that appear full may actually have open space no one knows about. |
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I doubt that the two events' planning committees are sharing information on who's on the wait lists, and I very much doubt that they would give lower priority to a team trying to sign up elsewhere. If you can sign up for another event without withdrawing from this one, I'd suggest you do so. It could be seen as abusing the system, but in the unlikely case that you end up getting registered for both, there's no penalty for withdrawing from a competition before you have paid. |
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Ft Lauderdale, Bayou, Hub City are regionals that you are likely to get off the wait list at (or at least were earlier this week). Many are stacked super deep, with 10+ teams waiting for a handful of slots. I don't know why this information isn't better disseminated.
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Just a quick note -- the FIRST FRC Events list is now up to a total of 110 events will the official addition of the 18th FiM District event during Week One.
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2900 teams are now registered.
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Oh, did you mean this year? :) |
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I'd expect some further rise for the next two weeks as HQ works with teams, but then actually a fall back as some teams finally drop out after failing to raise the necessary funds or otherwise pull it all together. Last year after this point in time we gained an additional 44 teams then lost 88 teams as they dropped out. That also had a later (~2 weeks) registration close. The year before shows an ultimate net gain of 32 teams after this date. Also with a longer registration period. Most earlier years showed a modest net gain (<100) after this point. |
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So, at Regional Registration Close at noon we had:
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So based on those numbers, and my bad math, it looks like between $16 and $20 million for regsitraton fees. Wow!
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Do you have the #'s for 2nd/3rd districts on a region-by-region basis?
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FIM: Any news on wait listed teams?
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The FIRST team database appears to have changed how access is done. Maybe as a step in the open API effort. It happened between 6 & 7pm yesterday.
Sessions no longer time out. Oddly enough some counts are now accurate to six decimal places, so we should expect fractional teams in the future, e.g.,
At least until they adapt. P.S. All better now. Thanks guys! |
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Looks like we have a location for the Michigan State Championship...
DeltaPlex Arena 2500 Turner Ave NW Grand Rapids, MI 48544 USA It appears to be a sizable place. Any guesses for final capacity? |
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/norkusa/15365102932/ About 4 500 fixed seats. Two fields are a definite possibility, if the convention halls are available for pits. http://www.arenaracinggr.com/about/index.html#track http://www.arenaracinggr.com/about/techspecs.pdf Also, here are some dimensions in the "arena racing" configuration of the main hall. |
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Will be interesting to see how it's handled... |
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Team 4592 is now registered for the Bayou Regional! We're going to our first out of state event.
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A lot of FiM teams are being added to events this weekend.
I've counted 50 so far. In preparation for 3rd District signup on Tuesday I presume. |
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Why are teams not able to switch their district event now? Somehow at least one team is taken out from wait list and moved to another event where other teams were wait listed.
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Now that 3rd District Reg is open, do we have any stats on teams attending 3 districts, or better question do we have any verified cross district playing?
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174 NE teams registered at 10 districts. More spots available. We'll be looking forward to seeing you guys at the same 3 districts along with 4055. The attached spreadsheet shows all NED events and teams registered. 10 teams so far have only registered for 1 district. |
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Four of the 53 Indiana teams have yet to sign up for their second event. |
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Out of 122 MAR Teams (up from 110 in 2014)
As far as travel outside the district:
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Looking forward to kick off in Wolcott |
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Here is I believe an up to date spreadsheet for NE districts
I see Deep River may have only 1 event? or I missed. Please let me know of errors. Whoa - RI district upped the ante in the last go round! NE district needs its own thread Looking forward to KO |
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Here is updated/corrected file for NE districts
Deep River now set, but now 3609 from Portland seems to be down to one event. 10 teams have signed up for 3 events, 1 team (246 - Go BU!) has signed up for 4 events! Potential of 39 more slots to be filled (assuming 40 per event). C'mon outside district teams! we'd love to see you. |
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2908 teams were registered at Kickoff.
Highest rookie number is 5784 Five more than we guessed in October that we would end up with. I expect a few more will drop out though and take us closer to the lower October estimate. For a multitude of reasons teams drop out all the way through the Regional and District events into April. Still had 22 teams shuffled into events over the past week, so there is still some activity there. And there is always the cross-district play opportunity opening up this Friday. ![]() |
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Inter-District registration opens at noon today.
Curious to see who wants to travel. Events have been populating their team lists in anticipation. The Michigan Bedford event added 13 teams. |
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As of now these are events with open spots listed. Some are not at 40 but do not have listed open spots.
FIM District - Escanaba Event (Week 5) - 8 IN District -Indianapolis (Week 1) - 1 IN District - Kokomo City of Firsts Event sponsored by AndyMark (Week 3) - 1 MAR District - North Brunswick Event (Week 6) - 1 NE District - Waterbury Event (Week 1) - 2 NE District - Pioneer Valley Event (Week 2) - 1 NE District - Pine Tree Event (Week 3) - 4 NE District - Rhode Island Event (Week 4) - 1 NE District - UMass - Dartmouth Event (Week 5) - 9 PNW District - West Valley Event (Week 2) - 4 PNW District - Philomath Event (Week 5) - 1 |
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IN District -Indianapolis (Week 1) - 5 spots IN District - Kokomo City of Firsts Event sponsored by AndyMark (Week 3) - 10 spots IN District - Purdue District (week 4) - 1 spot Andy Baker just posted more information about the Indiana events, feel free to ask questions about the Indiana District there, DM me for more information, or email info@indianafirst.org. Quote:
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135 decided to sign up for the Indy event (meaning we will go to all 3 IN events) since none of the FiM events that we wanted were open. Look out, Indianapolis - here comes Northern Indiana!:p
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What's the lowest numbered rookie team?
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