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protoserge 24-10-2014 08:44

Re: Problem with Robot Status Light
 
Let's go through some troubleshooting steps (in no particular order):
  1. Did it work all season with the same code that you have on the robot? If yes, the code is unlikely to be related.
  2. Have you checked wiring for continuity? Pull the WAGO out of the digital sidecar and check the continuity from the WAGO to the light's terminals with a multimeter.
  3. Is the RSL WAGO plug firmly connected? Are the pins inside the WAGO properly seated? Are they properly crimped?
  4. Is the RSL wired according to the diagram in the electrical rule R63?
  5. Do you have voltage/current on the wiring? If there is no voltage and the wiring has continuity between the Digital Sidecar WAGO and the RSL terminals, there is an issue on the Digital Sidecar. Try reading voltage across the WAGO terminal on the Digital Sidecar. If you read 0V, then the digital sidecar or something upstream would be the issue.

Good luck!

Anthony4939 24-10-2014 08:58

Re: Problem with Robot Status Light
 
The RSL LED is not doing anything, when the robot is enabled and disabled, those LEDs are lit.

microman1934 24-10-2014 09:02

Re: Problem with Robot Status Light
 
The code used is the exact same as the one used during the season, it worked throughout.

Jon Stratis 24-10-2014 09:12

Re: Problem with Robot Status Light
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony4939 (Post 1405607)
The RSL LED is not doing anything, when the robot is enabled and disabled, those LEDs are lit.

In that case, I would try replacing the following, one at a time until the problem is fixed: ribbon cable, sidecar, digital module in the crio, and finally the crio if all that fails. It's sounding more and more like a hardware failure in one of those components, most likely the sidecar.

Tem1514 Mentor 24-10-2014 09:27

Re: Problem with Robot Status Light
 
1)A big clue is all those relay outputs on. So are you able to Enable and Disable the cRIO via the drivers station? If you answer yes then you should see the relay outputs turn OFF when the cRIO is disabled, if this does not happen then possible causes are;
2) bad ribbon cable. Is one of those ones that was made with a half twist? Try removing the ribbon cable and turn on the BOT, do the relay outputs stay OFF? If they don't suspect the side car and replace it. If the relay outputs go off try a different ribbon cable.

If you can't enable/disable the the BOT from (1) above then you have some problem with the cRIO, software or comms.

With all the teams going to Vic park on Nov 1 we will figure out what is wrong.

cgmv123 24-10-2014 10:25

Re: Problem with Robot Status Light
 
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Originally Posted by Tem1514 Mentor (Post 1405613)
Is one of those ones that was made with a half twist?

I think you're on to something. That is the type of cable that came assembled backwards.

OP, check both ends of the cable. The red side of the ribbon cable should connect to Pin 1 on both ends. (The pin numbers are tiny, but they should be next to the pin and hole on the respective connector.) If it's inverted, the procedure to fix it is attached.

Joe Ross 24-10-2014 11:12

Re: Problem with Robot Status Light
 
What slot in the cRIO is the digital module (with the db37 cable) plugged into?

Anthony4939 24-10-2014 11:41

Re: Problem with Robot Status Light
 
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The pins and holes line up fine with the ribbon. Swapped it just in case, nothing.

Swapped the module, same issue.

We don't have access to another crio and sidecar until Wednesday.

See attached for the ports.

Update: when I removed the ribbon and turned it on, the LEDs on the relays remain lit.

Joe Ross 24-10-2014 11:49

Re: Problem with Robot Status Light
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony4939 (Post 1405643)
See attached for the ports.

The modules are in the wrong slots. The analog module is supposed to be in the slot closest to the ethernet port. The digital module should be in the the second slot.

Anthony4939 24-10-2014 12:21

Re: Problem with Robot Status Light
 
Awesome! The LEDs on the relay are now off, but the indicator light is still off.

microman1934 24-10-2014 15:25

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Here I'd the photo of the rsl and the robot.

mklinker 24-10-2014 15:37

Re: Problem with Robot Status Light
 
In this picture the analog and digital modules are still plugged into the wrong ports on the crio.

cgmv123 24-10-2014 17:32

Re: Problem with Robot Status Light
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mklinker (Post 1405683)
In this picture the analog and digital modules are still plugged into the wrong ports on the crio.

More accurately, they're swapped from where they should be.

weaversam8 27-10-2014 17:02

If the indicator on the Sidecar is not blinking (the one next to the RSL connector) then something is wrong with the sidecar.

Unless you have corrupted cRIO firmware, code could never be an issue.

Finally, if the RSL indicator is blinking, but the RSL itself is not, try replacing the wires and ensuring that they are firmly, but not too tightly attached. We have damaged wires in the RSL by overtightening before. Make sure that the jumper is between the two outside pins.

Alan Anderson 28-10-2014 00:43

Re: Problem with Robot Status Light
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weaversam8 (Post 1405995)
If the indicator on the Sidecar is not blinking (the one next to the RSL connector) then something is wrong with the sidecar.

Or something could be wrong the 37-pin cable. Or the cRIO image. Or the cRIO 24v power. Or the cRIO hardware itself. Or, as we've pretty clearly identified in this case, the placement of the DIO module in the cRIO.


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