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Damiaen_Florian 29-10-2014 13:24

Fastest FRC Robot?
 
I couldn't find a thread post anywhere discussing this so I was wondering, to the best of everyone's knowledge, what was the fastest robot in FRC History? If you're aware of the robots FPS or any other interesting features about their drivetrain then please feel free to list them, thanks!

My current guess would be 148 in 2008 but I'm not entirely sure.

thatprogrammer 29-10-2014 15:10

Re: Fastest FRC Robot?
 
Team 102 was capable of going 27 fps in 2008, of course, they couldn't actually reach that speed on the FRC field.

Mk.32 29-10-2014 16:59

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254 in 2011? Was underweight and geared for 21FPS? If i remember.

AdamHeard 29-10-2014 17:13

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Our minibot on a horizontal surface ;)

Mike Marandola 29-10-2014 17:28

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Citrus Circuits were geared for 22 fps this year.

donkehote 30-10-2014 12:39

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Originally Posted by thatprogrammer (Post 1406315)
Team 102 was capable of going 27 fps in 2008, of course, they couldn't actually reach that speed on the FRC field.

My old now defunct team was geared and could hit 28 fps in 08. A 25 lb robot before batteries helps that a lot. 7 second laps for the win. Unfortunately, due to internal team politics, our team never went to competition with that robot.

Tyler2517 30-10-2014 12:53

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Originally Posted by donkehote (Post 1406476)
My old now defunct team was geared and could hit 28 fps in 08. A 25 lb robot before batteries helps that a lot. 7 second laps for the win. Unfortunately, due to internal team politics, our team never went to competition with that robot.

I do not think i have the mental capability to drive something with that much acceleration.

donkehote 30-10-2014 13:27

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Originally Posted by Tyler2517 (Post 1406479)
I do not think i have the mental capability to drive something with that much acceleration.

It was surprisingly easy to drive. It had a double stacked omni on the front to turn. We drove forward on the small wheels, and turned when we rotated the wheel. we originally had Ackerman steering, but it never returned to center 100%. Using the omni, straight was straight. The rear axle was solid, but turning lifted the inside wheel, just like in a go-kart, so drag losses while turning were limited. It was a lot of fun to drive.

Caleb Sykes 30-10-2014 13:53

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Originally Posted by donkehote (Post 1406483)
It was surprisingly easy to drive. It had a double stacked omni on the front to turn. We drove forward on the small wheels, and turned when we rotated the wheel. we originally had Ackerman steering, but it never returned to center 100%. Using the omni, straight was straight. The rear axle was solid, but turning lifted the inside wheel, just like in a go-kart, so drag losses while turning were limited. It was a lot of fun to drive.

Did you incorporate any sensor feedback (e.g. gyros, encoders) to help the driver?

RoboChair 30-10-2014 14:11

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Originally Posted by Mike Marandola (Post 1406334)
Citrus Circuits were geared for 22 fps this year.

There is Geared and Actual FPS. We only could hit 17-18 FPS on field(we measured this). Our 22 FPS was our theoretical top speed.

I vote that this thread reports Actual FPS as measured on the field, not what the gearbox was "capable" of.

donkehote 30-10-2014 14:44

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Originally Posted by inkling16 (Post 1406489)
Did you incorporate any sensor feedback (e.g. gyros, encoders) to help the driver?

We only had an array of ping sensors looking forward, and to the sides for auto.
it drove laps autonomously in auto with obstructions, but again, it never made it to comp, so I never got to see how well that would have worked in real competition.

Michael Hill 30-10-2014 17:49

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Originally Posted by RoboChair (Post 1406494)
There is Geared and Actual FPS. We only could hit 17-18 FPS on field(we measured this). Our 22 FPS was our theoretical top speed.

I vote that this thread reports Actual FPS as measured on the field, not what the gearbox was "capable" of.


I've always been annoyed when people say "Geared for [XX]". Is that according to the JVN spreadsheet? or is that actually measured? Simulated another way?

Ether 30-10-2014 18:16

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Originally Posted by Michael Hill (Post 1406508)
Is that according to the JVN spreadsheet?

And if so, what value did you use for the "speed loss constant" fudge factor?



AdamHeard 30-10-2014 18:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Hill (Post 1406508)
I've always been annoyed when people say "Geared for [XX]". Is that according to the JVN spreadsheet? or is that actually measured? Simulated another way?

When teams are comparing theoretical speeds, I think it makes sense to sense to use "geared for" assuming that means free speed. This way frictional estimates don't affect the number. This is essentially the rollout ratio times a CIMs free speed.

Any other number I think is only valid if actually measured, or from a team that has measured several of their similar drives and has decent enough friction parameters to estimate future drives.

Ether 30-10-2014 18:21

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1406510)
Any other number I think is only valid if actually measured, or from a team that has measured several of their similar drives and has decent enough friction parameters to estimate future drives.

Quoted for truth.




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