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zinthorne 19-11-2014 19:36

Drivers using Google glass
 
So I have seen several highlight videos where teams had their human player wear a pair of the Google glasses to record video. Well this got me thinking about having the driver of the team wear a pair to display information about the match without having to look down at the laptop or hearing it. This information could include time left in the match, video feed from a camera on the robot, or telling what positions certain functions of the robot are in. Even hot goal detection could be done theoretically. Is this legal or even possible? And what are your ideas on actually doing it?

z_beeblebrox 19-11-2014 19:41

Re: Drivers using Google glass
 
2014 R95:
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Other than the system provided by the ARENA, no other form of wireless communications shall be used to communicate to, from, or within the OPERATOR CONSOLE.
Unless it is plugged into the driver station computer, Google Glass would probably not be legal.

(Obligatory disclaimer on how 2015 rules may differ)

evand4567 19-11-2014 20:41

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$10 Cheezy uses a HUD next year...

EricH 19-11-2014 20:47

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Originally Posted by evand4567 (Post 1409255)
$10 Cheezy uses a HUD next year...

Teams have been using HUDs since at least '06, off and on. 3 LEDs mounted onto a pair of safety glasses worn by either the driver or the operator or both can be pretty decent as a target assist in shooting games.

Any HUD, unless the 2015 rules change this, would have to be wired to the operator console, and plugged in AFTER automode (or put on after automode).

CalTran 19-11-2014 21:03

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1409257)
Teams have been using HUDs since at least '06, off and on. 3 LEDs mounted onto a pair of safety glasses worn by either the driver or the operator or both can be pretty decent as a target assist in shooting games.

Any HUD, unless the 2015 rules change this, would have to be wired to the operator console, and plugged in AFTER automode (or put on after automode).

I've seen examples of this in the Aim High book, but never in person, and now seems like a good time to ask how they worked in terms of the lights being on safety glasses, but it being necessary to wear safety glasses all the time while still not wearing the glasses for the whole not touching controls thing.

EricH 19-11-2014 21:24

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Originally Posted by CalTran (Post 1409258)
I've seen examples of this in the Aim High book, but never in person, and now seems like a good time to ask how they worked in terms of the lights being on safety glasses, but it being necessary to wear safety glasses all the time while still not wearing the glasses for the whole not touching controls thing.

As I recall the set I saw (294, if memory serves), it was a clip-on unit. Grab, clip to glasses, aim, shoot. Or else it was plugged in after auto (the other option), or the driver managed to switch safety glasses right away. I'd have to ask someone who worked with it.

Mark McLeod 19-11-2014 21:37

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Ours in 2006 had a cable from the safety glasses with a large phono jack that detached from the control board while the operators stood back during Autonomous, then were plugged in as the drivers stepped forward.

The glasses had an LED on each side that told the operator when the turret was aimed to far to one side or the other.
Both LEDs were on when the target was centered.

cad321 19-11-2014 23:47

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This here is something that I have been considering experimenting with before the build season. It is diy, involves 3d printing and allows for a live stream of either a camera feed or live variables.

Alan Anderson 20-11-2014 09:26

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1409257)
Teams have been using HUDs since at least '06, off and on.

Sometime before I started with the team in 2004, the TechnoKats had a set of "magic goggles" that connected to the driver station. Two LEDs mounted to a pair of safety glasses gave feedback on high/low gear (the control was a foot pedal toggle function) and something else I don't know.

They haven't been used while I was part of the team. Feedback of that sort is now implemented by using LEDs on the robot itself.

waialua359 20-11-2014 13:42

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Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 1409301)
They haven't been used while I was part of the team. Feedback of that sort is now implemented by using LEDs on the robot itself.

Yes! We used LED's on the robot to tell our HP in 2011 which tube we wanted thrown out onto the field.

Peyton Yeung 20-11-2014 14:57

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We used LEDs in 2013 to show one color when our shooter was turned on and another color when they were at the ideal speed. IIRC 341 and 33 did something similar in 2012.

Jared Russell 20-11-2014 16:16

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Originally Posted by Peyton Yeung (Post 1409342)
We used LEDs in 2013 to show one color when our shooter was turned on and another color when they were at the ideal speed. IIRC 341 and 33 did something similar in 2012.

254 did this in 2014 as well.

It is useful for all four members of the drive team to be able to see the same status signal without needing a bunch of wearable devices and cables. The approach helps to quickly diagnose problems in the pit as well. If you are sensitive to the other alliance being able to see it during competition, well, put it on the back of your robot.

BBray_T1296 20-11-2014 17:03

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How about a tall piece of lexan or something that is attached to the DS at a negative slope, with the bottom behind the DS laptop and the top hanging over it, high enough to be above eye level. A projector could plaster info onto the sheet, similar to the HUD on higher end cars showing RPM, Speed, Gear etc. on the glass windshield.

daniel12997 29-11-2014 10:02

Are you allowed Bluetooth communication I only saw rules about wifi

z_beeblebrox 29-11-2014 10:05

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Originally Posted by daniel12997 (Post 1410520)
Are you allowed Bluetooth communication I only saw rules about wifi

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