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thatprogrammer 25-11-2014 19:32

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Are there always stack bins in Choice? I believe that boxes were used as the 2003 game piece...

AndreaV 26-11-2014 00:54

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Originally Posted by thatprogrammer (Post 1410073)
Are there always stack bins in Choice? I believe that boxes were used as the 2003 game piece...

the boxes in 2003 were rubbermaid tubs. If you're suggesting these can be a game piece... we're all doomed.


I noticed that the two belt sizes used in last years kitbot are available in limited quantities. Maybe that indicates that this years kitbot will not be using the same center to center distances? larger wheels maybe? an obstacle maybe? frame perimeter change? hm?

evand4567 26-11-2014 02:14

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Not horribly useful unless you're doing heavy simulations for your robot, but anyone else think the Quadro K4000 for 100 points is a steal? I mean come on, that's a $700 beast of a graphics card that costs the same as 10 mini dry erase boards. http://firstchoicebyandymark.com/fc15-114

RoboMo786 26-11-2014 02:50

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Originally Posted by thatprogrammer (Post 1410073)
Are there always stack bins in Choice? I believe that boxes were used as the 2003 game piece...

Maybe this is baseless speculation, but the stack bins are the only item I noticed that don't have a "yes" or "no" in the "In kickoff kit" box, therefore leaving the box blank. A hint perhaps?

Joe G. 26-11-2014 02:52

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Originally Posted by RoboMo786 (Post 1410124)
Maybe this is baseless speculation, but the stack bins are the only item I noticed that don't have a "yes" or "no" in the "In kickoff kit" box, therefore leaving the box blank. A hint perhaps?

Much more likely, a simple oversight.

These bins are on a completely different scale than the 2003 bins

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Originally Posted by AndreaV (Post 1410117)
I noticed that the two belt sizes used in last years kitbot are available in limited quantities. Maybe that indicates that this years kitbot will not be using the same center to center distances? larger wheels maybe? an obstacle maybe? frame perimeter change? hm?

The item page says that these will be included in the kitbot box on kickoff.

Anthony4939 26-11-2014 11:21

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Could someone please explain the difference between the two Jags?

Michael Hill 26-11-2014 11:29

Re: FIRST Choice 2015 Window Open
 
I wish they told us the resolution on the CUI encoder there...AMT103-V isn't exactly useful. I could be missing it, but I don't see it anywhere.

Andrew Schreiber 26-11-2014 11:39

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Originally Posted by Michael Hill (Post 1410163)
I wish they told us the resolution on the CUI encoder there...AMT103-V isn't exactly useful. I could be missing it, but I don't see it anywhere.

It says it's programmable. Here's the Digikey page for it, http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...1308-ND/827016 and datasheet http://www.cui.com/product/resource/amt10-v.pdf

Michael Hill 26-11-2014 11:46

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Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1410165)
It says it's programmable. Here's the Digikey page for it, http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...1308-ND/827016 and datasheet http://www.cui.com/product/resource/amt10-v.pdf

Thanks, I thought I was going crazy. I've never heard of a programmable resolution encoder before. Now I'm going to have to research these.

DonRotolo 26-11-2014 11:47

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Note that ALL First Choice items are donated, but in quantities smaller than necessary to give some to each team. Although FIRST would just love to have more offerings (ask Kate Pilotte yourself!) in the donation world, you get what you get and love it. There are no game hints in there.

THANK YOU to all the companies who donated items. This is all very much appreciated.:D

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Originally Posted by Anthony4939 (Post 1410160)
Could someone please explain the difference between the two Jags?

Nominally they are the same, but the supplier is different. One could argue the ones supplied by Texas Instruments are older and so somehow inferior, since the later ones have (IIRC) some minor improvements, but in my opinion they are the same.

Mark McLeod 26-11-2014 11:50

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Originally Posted by Michael Hill (Post 1410170)
Thanks, I thought I was going crazy. I've never heard of a programmable resolution encoder before. Now I'm going to have to research these.

The resolution is set by internal dip switches.

cgmv123 26-11-2014 11:54

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Originally Posted by Anthony4939 (Post 1410160)
Could someone please explain the difference between the two Jags?

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Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1410171)
Nominally they are the same, but the supplier is different. One could argue the ones supplied by Texas Instruments are older and so somehow inferior, since the later ones have (IIRC) some minor improvements, but in my opinion they are the same.

These ones are the older ones (2012 season and previous) and earlier made by TI. These ones are the newer ones (2013 season - 2014 season) made by IFI. As far as I'm aware, they're identical electrically, but the ones made by IFI are conformal coated, while the ones made by TI are not.

Michael Hill 26-11-2014 12:23

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Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1410173)
The resolution is set by internal dip switches.

I get that, but I'm more curious in how they physically/electronically work.

AdamHeard 26-11-2014 12:29

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Originally Posted by Michael Hill (Post 1410185)
I get that, but I'm more curious in how they physically/electronically work.

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The AMT is unique among modular incremental encoders because it is capacitive (the same technology used in digital calipers) and not optical. This eliminates handling of the sensitive optical disk and issues related to LED burnout from the photo diode.
So it's probably reading position as an analog value (the capacitance), and then converting to digital. The dip switches just set the resolution at which you convert (just a scalar).

This is pretty common with magenetic encoders too (selectable resolution).

Michael Hill 26-11-2014 12:44

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1410187)
So it's probably reading position as an analog value (the capacitance), and then converting to digital. The dip switches just set the resolution at which you convert (just a scalar).

This is pretty common with magenetic encoders too (selectable resolution).

That makes sense. Thanks


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