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notmattlythgoe 10-12-2014 10:31
Re: [FRC Blog] Kit Hints?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Christopher149 (Post 1412709)
Correlating with the 2014 kit, the 27 in. x 17 in. x ## in. items are probably totes. I'm curious what the 29 in. x 22 in. x 22 in., 9 lbs. item is: it's large and very light.
Box of game pieces maybe?

MasterEric 10-12-2014 10:35
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B) One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs.
Has nobody pointed this out? This thing is really heavy for it's size.

Given that Item B has a size of 168 cubic inches, and a weight of 14 pounds, it has a density of approximately 0.083333333 pounds per cubic inch.

Looking at this site, several of my guesses are eliminated, including solid gold and human bone

cgmv123 10-12-2014 10:36
Re: [FRC Blog] Kit Hints?
 
B and F are obviously batteries. IIRC, they've been in the totes the last few years.

Munchskull 10-12-2014 10:37
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The 3󫢮0 item is a set of items totalling in those dimensions.

jvriezen 10-12-2014 10:40
Re: [FRC Blog] Kit Hints?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchskull (Post 1412715)
The 3󫢮0 item is a set of items totalling in those dimensions.
Yep. One piece of red fabric, one blue.

Whippet 10-12-2014 10:41
Re: [FRC Blog] Kit Hints?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchskull (Post 1412715)
The 3󫢮0 item is a set of items totalling in those dimensions.
Two 60" graduated cylinders for measuring the water.

smarthimandrew 10-12-2014 10:44
Re: [FRC Blog] Kit Hints?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cgmv123 (Post 1412713)
B and F are obviously batteries. IIRC, they've been in the totes the last few years.
Excellent, we can rule out B and F:
http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-0844.htm

Taylor 10-12-2014 10:44
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To help me visualize, I made a picture of the KoP components. I set them on a standard 48x40 pallet for scale.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-W...ew?usp=sharing
Red and Blue objects are for everybody, Green objects are for Rookies, Black object is AM14U2.

Sparky3D 10-12-2014 10:46
Re: [FRC Blog] Kit Hints?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jvriezen (Post 1412717)
Yep. One piece of red fabric, one blue.
6 pounds would be a lot of fabric. :ahh:

blazeflipper 10-12-2014 10:49
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So, if this is our hint we have to look at every aspect of the post and assume it all was worded very carefully. They mentioned in their post that kickoff is 24 days away and Frank also made a post saying 24 days away directly after, I think that the "24" is important. Perhaps that the game piece is 24 inches long? It also says "One set of items, collectively" so maybe they gave us three game pieces. They allude to this component so we Know it isn't a typo "we recommend you leave the Vespa at home".

notmattlythgoe 10-12-2014 10:53
Re: [FRC Blog] Kit Hints?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by blazeflipper (Post 1412722)
So, if this is our hint we have to look at every aspect of the post and assume it all was worded very carefully. They mentioned in their post that kickoff is 24 days away and Frank also made a post saying 24 days away directly after, I think that the "24" is important. Perhaps that the game piece is 24 inches long? It also says "One set of items, collectively" so maybe they gave us three game pieces. They allude to this component so we Know it isn't a typo "we recommend you leave the Vespa at home".
This is a good point, just because they are "collectively" 3x3x60 doesn't mean it is packaged at 60" long or each one is 60" long, it could be a bunch of shorter items when put end to end in line are 60" long.

FrankJ 10-12-2014 10:58
Re: [FRC Blog] Kit Hints?
 
The kit is apparently full of items. So anything marketed as or commercially available as an "item" is legal? "item" is also used a term for certain interpersonal relationships. So is this some sort of game hint about AI?

MrRoboSteve 10-12-2014 10:58
Re: [FRC Blog] Kit Hints?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jvriezen (Post 1412683)
My guess for 3x3 is 'must use' bumper fabric. Would add to asthetics of matches and prevent fabric selection for advantage.

29x22x22 is two or more game pieces?
And I just got the Rockywoods shipment notification a few minutes ago...

jvriezen 10-12-2014 11:00
Re: [FRC Blog] Kit Hints?
 
I computed density for the 22x22x29 and compared to density of a case of pool noodles shipping size and weight from amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Tundra-TWLN36-...=1418226525796

Almost identical density. 64 29" noodles? Enough for two sets of bumpers for a competition and a practice bot times two. Not nearly as convinced about this. Seems like a lot noodles unless the mfgr makes them 58" and they cut the boxes in half.

Otherwise there is a lot of air in that box.

Arpan 10-12-2014 11:00
Re: [FRC Blog] Kit Hints?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1412723)
This is a good point, just because they are "collectively" 3x3x60 doesn't mean it is packaged at 60" long or each one is 60" long, it could be a bunch of shorter items when put end to end in line are 60" long.
In this case, why would they burden teams with something this long to carry? I'd bet that It's a roll of bumper fabric.


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