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cgmv123 10-12-2014 11:01

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Originally Posted by jvriezen (Post 1412730)
Otherwise there is a lot of air in that box.

Par for the course if it's from Amazon. ;)

weaversam8 10-12-2014 11:02

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I did some calculations, and 2" aluminum tubing that is 5 feet long would be roughly equivalent to 6 pounds.

notmattlythgoe 10-12-2014 11:02

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Originally Posted by jvriezen (Post 1412730)
I computed density for the 22x22x29 and compared to density of a case of pool noodles shipping size and weight from amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Tundra-TWLN36-...=1418226525796

Almost identical density. 64 29" noodles? Enough for two sets of bumpers for a competition and a practice bot times two. Not nearly as convinced about this. Seems like a lot noodles unless the mfgr makes them 58" and they cut the boxes in half.

Otherwise there is a lot of air in that box.

A box full of wiffle balls? Or ball pit balls?

Boe 10-12-2014 11:03

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I dont think FIRST would package a number of smaller items in a box of that shape, it seems really cumbersome so I think its pretty safe to assume whatever is in the 3x3x60 box needs a box that long to fit it in.

notmattlythgoe 10-12-2014 11:04

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Originally Posted by Arpan (Post 1412731)
In this case, why would they burden teams with something this long to carry? I'd bet that It's a roll of bumper fabric.

I said it doesn't necessarily mean it is packaged at 60" long. It just says it is a set of items that is collectively that long. However I think this is very unlikely and it is most likely something that is 60" long.

jvriezen 10-12-2014 11:07

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Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1412735)
A box full of wiffle balls? Or ball pit balls?

FTC is using whiffle balls this year. It would have to be something that can't be shipped deflated.

Arpan 10-12-2014 11:08

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Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1412735)
A box full of wiffle balls? Or ball pit balls?

Remember, this is a no-balls year :P

Shu 10-12-2014 11:08

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My first though when I saw the size and weight of item B was one of these. How about that for a game piece? But I think the obvious answer is a battery.

notmattlythgoe 10-12-2014 11:10

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How heavy have the totes been in the past? Is this year's tote much heavier than it has been in the past?

Whippet 10-12-2014 11:12

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Originally Posted by Arpan (Post 1412740)
Remember, this is a no-balls year :P

So was that game we never refer to, but it happened anyway. :D

Arpan 10-12-2014 11:13

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My final guess is that the long box is cloth and the large light one is pool noodle, and that FRC is providing us with bumper materials this year to standardize everything.

The gamepiece probably comes in the tote like it has for the past few years now.

jman4747 10-12-2014 11:14

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Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1412737)
I said it doesn't necessarily mean it is packaged at 60" long. It just says it is a set of items that is collectively that long. However I think this is very unlikely and it is most likely something that is 60" long.

Dido.

Even if it were like 5 ~12" long 3x3 boxes for example why not just use one 12x9x6 box or something like that. Also they seem to be trying to say that we should prepare for something cumbersome (a 5ft long box). Same thing for wiffle balls, why not a square box? It would be cheaper/easier for us and FIRST. Based on that whatever this is has to need a box that big or else it is a waste. To the point of bumper materials, why supply everyone with something most of us have already bought and paid for? Why not tell us we are getting bumper fabric and noodles ahead of time so we don't spend the money? The whole point is so we don't spend it anyway.

notmattlythgoe 10-12-2014 11:14

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Originally Posted by Arpan (Post 1412744)
My final guess is that the long box is cloth and the large light one is pool noodle, and that FRC is providing us with bumper materials this year to standardize everything.

The gamepiece probably comes in the tote like it has for the past few years now.

29" noodles aren't really what you want for building bumpers though, you need something longer than that.

notmattlythgoe 10-12-2014 11:16

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Originally Posted by jman4747 (Post 1412745)
Dido.

Even if it were like 5 ~12" long 3x3 boxes for example why not just use one 12x9x6 box or something like that. Also they seem to be trying to say that we should prepare for something cumbersome (a 5ft long box). Same thing for wiffle balls, why not a square box? It would be cheaper/easier for us and FIRST. I think based on that whatever this is has to need a box that big or else it is a waste. To the point of bumper materials, why supply everyone with something most of us have already bought and paid for? Why not tell us we are getting bumper fabric and noodles ahead of time so we don't spend the money? The whole point is so we don't spend it anyway.

I can't remember if they announced the switch to red and blue bumpers early or if we found out on kickoff, can anybody else remember?

scca229 10-12-2014 11:19

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Originally Posted by cgmv123 (Post 1412713)
B and F are obviously batteries. IIRC, they've been in the totes the last few years.

Wouldn't the batteries then be included in the items A and E weights (look like the black and green tote sizes from memory) since they are normally inside the totes and be part of the "collectively" statement? The sizes are right for batteries but didn't one of the extra motors boxes come outside the black tote last year?


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