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Originally Posted by Michael Hill (Post 1412840)

Yeah, baseballs aren't going to happen....as fun as that would be. They have a bad habit of being deadly.

I think the 22x22x29 box is full of ball pit balls.

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Originally Posted by Woolly (Post 1412838)

According to Wikipedia, an MLB baseball is 2-7/8 in - 3in in diameter, and weighs between 5-5.25 ounces. Doing the math on that would mean that a 3X3X60 box would be about right for holding 20 baseballs and would weigh 6.25-6.5625lbs.

Anything like that makes much more sense to package in a square box to minimize length.

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We want to make sure you have the information you need to get your Kickoff Kit home safely. The Kit of Parts homepage has been updated with sizes and weights of various components of the Kickoff Kit that you can expect to have to pack up and take back to your build space.

If it's 20 baseballs or some number of shorter than 60" long items, they wouldn't pack them in a 3 x 3 x 20 box. This means that the item is either 60" long, or multiple items that can be stacked to 60" long. I don't think it's the second option because the purpose of showing the weights and the sizes was to give teams the ability to prepare to carry back the kickoff kit, not to mislead people about the size of what is in the kit.

They wouldn't have teams prepare to bring back a flagpole box if they could rearrange the contents to have more reasonable dimensions.

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Originally Posted by Woolly (Post 1412838)

...a 3X3X60 box would be about right for holding 20 baseballs and would weigh 6.25-6.5625lbs.

A 6x6x15 box would also hold 20 baseballs and would not unduly inconvenience Vespa owners. I agree with the assumption that this box is 5 feet long because that's the natural length of whatever is inside it.

How tall is the driver station "glass"?

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Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 1412847)

How tall is the driver station "glass"?

It has been (and will almost certainly continue to be) 41.5". Source: page 19 of the basic field drawings.

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Originally Posted by Bruceb (Post 1412799)

Ah @#$%@# had special wheels.

You have said that which should not have been spoken.

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Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 1412847)

I agree with the assumption that this box is 5 feet long because that's the natural length of whatever is inside it.

I agree. I'm thinking something similar to the VEX ladder from the 2010 game Round Up. Some sheet metal and other materials that assemble into a game element of some kind.

Maybe a rehash of the 2009 trailer idea and have something that must be mounted on each robot.

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The suggestion that "D" is a game piece has merit. But how about if it's a robot component that is required to manipulate a game piece? Last year was all about cooperation, passing was very high value; what if you are required to manipulate games pieces with this long robot component (provided in the kit)? Maybe the game pieces are hula hoops and you have to keep them off the ground and pass them when you go from loading to scoring... The latter is definitely reading too much into a box's dimensions, it's not unusual to dictate robot components as well as playing pieces. Or maybe the box contains hula hoops!

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Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 1412847)

A 6x6x15 box would also hold 20 baseballs...

I betcha a 6x6x15 box would hold 32 baseballs because face-centered cubic packing :)

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"We're in full swing"
Normally I wouldn't have thought anything of this comment, but the following posts made me think about it:

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Originally Posted by Woolly (Post 1412838)

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Originally Posted by Pretzel (Post 1412787)

When you purchase a new set of irons (for golf), they are shipped in a box that measures approximately 4"x4"x60", but this is designed to carry a full set of eight golf clubs.

An individually packaged iron will weigh about 3 pounds when it's ready to ship, with each iron weighing between one and two pounds. This means that about 3-4 golf clubs could fit in the box's weight limit. From heel to toe, with the shaft oriented vertically, a golf club measures less than the ~4.25 inches of space (measured diagonally) in the 3"x3" square. A golf club is also easily fits within the 60" of length given by such a box (with room to vertically stagger clubs and add soft packing material, as the major golf manufacturers do when shipping clubs in their 60" boxes). This means that it's entirely possible for the box to contain three golf clubs with it's specified dimensions and given weight.

So what kinds of swings are there? Baseball, golf, hockey (won't happen again) and tennis
Perhaps the long box is full of a few baseball bats or golf clubs? Or perhaps it is full of baseballs (probably wiffle balls) or golf balls (made of plastic)? Or maybe even a long tube of tennis balls

and about the #24....
FYI: Rickey Henderson, a pretty famous baseball player, was the number 24. He was famous for running and stealing bases

And to those saying that the 60" box is one long pole, read more carefully:
It says "One set of items, collectively 3 in. x 3 in. x 60 in., 6 lbs," meaning that there are at least 2 things inside the box

Of course, we are all probably making much adieu about nothing and the boxes probably just have bumper materials in them.

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3x3x60? It's probably a hose. Water game confirmed!

I could definitely dig the capture the flag method. A red and blue flag could fit in that box.

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Originally Posted by jvriezen (Post 1412717)

Yep. One piece of red fabric, one blue.

Maybe they're so heavy because the required bumper fabric is denim.

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Fabric could be a field element, rather than for bumpers.

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Game piece is not going to be a ball. I'll put money on that.