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MrForbes 15-12-2014 10:41

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...but you can buy a hockey goal from a store, so there's no need to include it with the KOP. And there's really no need to have a hockey goal anyways, we've always had to make our own goals for past games.

notmattlythgoe 15-12-2014 10:43

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Originally Posted by Pretzel (Post 1414148)
I would tend to disagree that the 2014 exercise balls would not hurt anyone. I know that our robot shot those exercise balls with enough force that it took ~125 lbs of force at the end of a ~30 in level arm to disarm the catapult. They also had to put up the hockey glass in the arena at the Utah Regional because some teams were shooting the balls through the goals and out into the stands where spectators were sitting.

As to the hockey topic, would it be reasonable to expect a hockey stick to fit inside a 3x3x60in. package? Wouldn't the angled blade at the end of the stick (the part you hit the puck with) make it impossible to fit into a package with that small of dimensions? A typical hockey stick (according to Wikipedia) has a blade that is ~12.5 inches long, and the stick itself is typically 64 inches long without including the blade.

I think it's much more reasonable to assume that, if there were to be a hockey game, the package contains a net and goal frame than a hockey stick. It would make sense since a goal is 4 feet tall (the vertical posts would fit easily within the package) and 6 feet wide (the crossbar would have to be assembled in two pieces to fit within the package) and the netting could fill up the extra space and also double as packaging material to prevent damage. I do not, however, know how much a full goal would weigh though to see if it would fit within the 6 pounds allotted.

All of these poles would also need to fit within the 3x3 area, which I doubt would be possible. Have we ever gotten a piece of the field in the KOP before? I'd be more inclined to think it is part of a game piece than a goal.

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...but you can buy a hockey goal from a store, so there's no need to include it with the KOP. And there's really no need to have a hockey goal anyways, we've always had to make our own goals for past games.
Agreed.

Longrange97 15-12-2014 10:59

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Im just going to add fuel to the fire here:
http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles...escription.pdf


hockey(and water), half life 3, and the Illuminati are confirmed

Anthony Galea 15-12-2014 11:37

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Originally Posted by MrForbes (Post 1414149)
...but you can buy a hockey goal from a store, so there's no need to include it with the KOP. And there's really no need to have a hockey goal anyways, we've always had to make our own goals for past games.

Kind of like how you could buy frisbees in a store? Or exersize balls?

I honestly don't have any idea what the game is. I really don't buy the hockey idea, it is too obvious for it to be the hint. But they could have a custom size goal that only FIRST has, or some game specific netting. To go against that, a team could easily build a hockey net frame out of PVC.

notmattlythgoe 15-12-2014 11:38

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Originally Posted by 3175student17 (Post 1414160)
Kind of like how you could buy frisbees in a store? Or exersize balls?

I honestly don't have any idea what the game is. I really don't buy the hockey idea, it is too obvious for it to be the hint. But they could have a custom size goal that only FIRST has, or some game specific netting. To go against that, a team could easily build a hockey net frame out of PVC.

Has FIRST ever not given the game piece though? The goal would be a field element not a game piece.

MrForbes 15-12-2014 11:42

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Originally Posted by 3175student17 (Post 1414160)
Kind of like how you could buy frisbees in a store? Or exersize balls?

The game piece is not the goal. We had to make our own goals for the frisbees and the exercise balls. The only goal stuff I can remember getting, was for visual processing, such as retroreflective tape, and colored cloth.

DDSLoan96 15-12-2014 20:15

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If it is a hockey game I dont see them using pucks but hockey balls maybe, their diameter is just shy of 3 inches and if they give us say 20 of them it is right around that 6lb mark

Christopher149 15-12-2014 21:56

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Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1414161)
Has FIRST ever not given the game piece though?

Did we get soccer ball[s] in the kit for Breakaway? That's the only one that comes right to mind.

notmattlythgoe 16-12-2014 07:45

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Originally Posted by Christopher149 (Post 1414267)
Did we get soccer ball[s] in the kit for Breakaway? That's the only one that comes right to mind.

Good question, I can't remember if we did or not. I seem to remember having to go buy some.

mrnoble 16-12-2014 08:20

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We bought them.

Derpancakes 16-12-2014 08:33

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I dunno how many times this will need to be brought up, but Frank acknowledged that the 60" box will definitely make it hard to transport. If the box contained anything like balls or tiny pieces, they would have put it in a more square box. It's obviously something rigid that requires a 5 foot long box.

Team371All 16-12-2014 13:42

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Did anyone bother to look at the 2014 source code for the kit of parts.

This is the line that this post was based on
<h3 align="left"><strong><em>FIRST</em>&nbsp;Ch</strong><strong>o</strong><strong>ice</strong></h3>

This is the line from the 2014 source code
<h3 align="left"><strong><em>FIRST</em>&nbsp;Ch</strong><strong>o</strong><strong>ice</strong></h3>

they are exactly the same. Sorry to ruin this thread, but I think you guys are barking up the wrong tree with a made up hint

hrench 16-12-2014 14:51

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Originally Posted by Derpancakes (Post 1414339)
It's obviously something rigid that requires a 5 foot long box.

I've wondered if this were a single large 'baton' that needs to be passed from robot to robot, then into a 'goal'. Possibly a big piece of 3" dia PVC pipe.

Cooperation games are popular and passing a baton like in a running relay is a really obvious possibility to cooperate.

That would be an interesting challenge. How would we do that....?

That's my guess for 2cents.

brandon.cottrell 16-12-2014 20:23

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Originally Posted by Team371All (Post 1414421)
they are exactly the same. Sorry to ruin this thread, but I think you guys are barking up the wrong tree with a made up hint

Aw :(

Well what if there was Ice somewhere in the competition and we didn't realize it, It may have been relevant somehow, we just need to find it.

jagoldman 16-12-2014 20:58

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Dare I say Regolith ice?


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