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Jack S. 19-12-2014 13:08
Re: BBQ FIRST Website Reveal
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1415200)
Ok i know BBQ and SAUCE but what is BBQ PDQ, BRIQUETTE and RIBS?
In the top right hand corner there is a button labeled help. This button takes you to a page with information regarding the website, including the definitions of the various edible banner statistics. This button will be made more visible.

Here's the link:
http://bbqfirst.x10host.com/help.php

Beaker 19-12-2014 13:20
Re: BBQ FIRST Website Reveal
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrForbes (Post 1415219)
842 has zero blue banners? I think there might be a few issues with BBQ....
This is actually the same thing that wilful pointed out earlier. I am actively working on this issue and have found the solution. The website will be updated to fix this very soon.

Thank you for pointing this out. I hate inaccurate data.

Libby K 19-12-2014 13:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1415116)
- Show where the banners came from on the team pages. If I see a team with a couple banners it would be nice to click and see quickly what they were for.
Also, there's definitely data other than '05 missing - for example, 1923 is listed as only having one banner (not true.) Even if you're only counting 'banners' as event wins, we have two - 2009 New Jersey and 2011 Connecticut. Not sure which one is missing, since (as Allen mentioned) you can't tell what the listed one is from. This would be a helpful feature not only for searching but also in helping troubleshoot what's still coming in. :)

Jared 19-12-2014 14:00
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It seems to be missing some blue alliance data too. 236 got regional chairmans in 2008 that shows on blue alliance but not on BBQ.

mwmac 19-12-2014 14:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Libby K (Post 1415233)
Also, there's definitely data other than '05 missing - for example, 1923 is listed as only having one banner (not true.) Even if you're only counting 'banners' as event wins, we have two - 2009 New Jersey and 2011 Connecticut. Not sure which one is missing, since (as Allen mentioned) you can't tell what the listed one is from. This would be a helpful feature not only for searching but also in helping troubleshoot what's still coming in. :)
2009 is missing for 1923

mwmac 19-12-2014 14:38
Re: BBQ FIRST Website Reveal
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack S. (Post 1415229)
In the top right hand corner there is a button labeled help. This button takes you to a page with information regarding the website, including the definitions of the various edible banner statistics. This button will be made more visible.

Here's the link:
http://bbqfirst.x10host.com/help.php
This is very helpful. One suggestion to assist in gauging a team's on field robot performance would be to net out blue banners associated with Chairman's awards earned. You could label this measure "Hot Sauce" in keeping with your food-centric nomenclature...

JesseK 20-12-2014 09:04
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These stats ... make no sense. The ranking of the results attempts to find a level of comparative competitiveness based upon 10 seasons of data in a competition where the only thing which is guaranteed to last 10 seasons are the bigger investments a team has made in tooling, infrastructure or facilities.

The stats don't even take into account groups of teams which keep winning the same Regional, thereby inflating that event's BBQ-ness.

It seems to me like we'd get a more realistic picture by using the trailing 2-4 years of event data for a given event and year, rather than "for all time".

Beaker 20-12-2014 09:17
Re: BBQ FIRST Website Reveal
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 1415385)
It seems to me like we'd get a more realistic picture by using the trailing 2-4 years of event data for a given event and year, rather than "for all time".
It seems to me that the statistics you are looking for are BRIQUETTE (Basically BBQ based on the last four years) and RIBS (BBQ based on the previous year).

Also, to calculate BBQ, the website is using every blue banner ever won (once the data is fixed in about an hour). SAUCE is the statistic that only has 10 years of data.

Michael Hill 20-12-2014 10:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beaker (Post 1415388)
It seems to me that the statistics you are looking for are BRIQUETTE (Basically BBQ based on the last four years) and RIBS (BBQ based on the previous year).

Also, to calculate BBQ, the website is using every blue banner ever won (once the data is fixed in about an hour). SAUCE is the statistic that only has 10 years of data.
ok, is this April Fools day or something?

Beaker 20-12-2014 12:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Hill (Post 1415394)
ok, is this April Fools day or something?
No it isn't. It's also no prank that the new data is uploaded. I have verified the banner counts of the teams that had missing blue banners, and that looks good now.

Oh and by the way:
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1415116)
- Show where the banners came from on the team pages. If I see a team with a couple banners it would be nice to click and see quickly what they were for.
Consider it done: http://bbqfirst.x10host.com/team_inf...=2015&tem=3847

Since I'm pretty confident that I have accurate data, I will update the calculations for each regional. That script takes about an hour so expect the website to be down around an hour from now for up to 5 minutes.

dodar 20-12-2014 13:04
Re: BBQ FIRST Website Reveal
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beaker (Post 1415422)
No it isn't. It's also no prank that the new data is uploaded. I have verified the banner counts of the teams that had missing blue banners, and that looks good now.

Oh and by the way:


Consider it done: http://bbqfirst.x10host.com/team_inf...=2015&tem=3847

Since I'm pretty confident that I have accurate data, I will update the calculations for each regional. That script takes about an hour so expect the website to be down around an hour from now for up to 5 minutes.
Nope, still missing 2005 Orlando.

Beaker 20-12-2014 13:19
Re: BBQ FIRST Website Reveal
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1415424)
Nope, still missing 2005 Orlando.
In 2005, the Orlando Regional was officially called The Florida Regional.

It can be found here: http://bbqfirst.x10host.com/event_in...05fl&year=2005

and here: http://www.thebluealliance.com/event/2005fl

If your team is missing awards from this event, it is probably because TBA doesn't have an awards page for the Florida Regional in 2005.

dodar 20-12-2014 13:32
Re: BBQ FIRST Website Reveal
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beaker (Post 1415426)
In 2005, the Orlando Regional was officially called The Florida Regional.

It can be found here: http://bbqfirst.x10host.com/event_in...05fl&year=2005

and here: http://www.thebluealliance.com/event/2005fl

If your team is missing awards from this event, it is probably because TBA doesn't have an awards page for the Florida Regional in 2005.
Cant you manually input it? Missing banners, however many the amount, completely alters any data after the year missing data.

Beaker 20-12-2014 13:54
I will manually input the data for you and your alliance partners, and make note of it so that the script doesn't overwrite it.

Michael Hill 20-12-2014 15:06
Re: BBQ FIRST Website Reveal
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beaker (Post 1415422)
No it isn't. It's also no prank that the new data is uploaded. I have verified the banner counts of the teams that had missing blue banners, and that looks good now.

Oh and by the way:


Consider it done: http://bbqfirst.x10host.com/team_inf...=2015&tem=3847

Since I'm pretty confident that I have accurate data, I will update the calculations for each regional. That script takes about an hour so expect the website to be down around an hour from now for up to 5 minutes.
I was just joking about how many ridiculous acronyms there are for statistics.


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