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billbo911 20-12-2014 11:19

Anderson Power Pole for motors
 
We have been considering using Anderson Power Pole connectors in conjunction with the new Victor SP or Talon SRX. Here is an example of the connectors we are considering.

The concern I have is their current rating is 45 Amps. When we do the calculation on possible max current we may pull through them is a pushing match etc, we come up with numbers that are 50% higher than that quite often.
I realize the pushing match current is usually a short term current, but sometimes it runs a several seconds longer than desired.

So, what has been your experience with these, or this type of connector when used in drive trains?

marshall 20-12-2014 11:26

Re: Anderson Power Pole for motors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billbo911 (Post 1415398)
We have been considering using Anderson Power Pole connectors in conjunction with the new Victor SP or Talon SRX. Here is an example of the connectors we are considering.

The concern I have is their current rating is 45 Amps. When we do the calculation on possible max current we may pull through them is a pushing match etc, we come up with numbers that are 50% higher than that quite often.
I realize the pushing match current is usually a short term current, but sometimes it runs a several seconds longer than desired.

So, what has been your experience with these, or this type of connector when used in drive trains?

We use them and love them. They work great. We have been using them for about 5+ years now and have not had any issues with over-drawing current or wires or connectors getting hot.

The biggest issue we have had with them is not being crimped properly. We do pull testing now to help with that though.

AdamHeard 20-12-2014 11:33

Re: Anderson Power Pole for motors
 
That rating is continuous not peak.

They handle the load just fine.

RufflesRidge 20-12-2014 11:53

Re: Anderson Power Pole for motors
 
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Originally Posted by billbo911 (Post 1415398)
The concern I have is their current rating is 45 Amps.

To add some perspective for you, the current rating for the main battery connector (made by the same company) is 50 Amps.

billbo911 20-12-2014 12:02

Re: Anderson Power Pole for motors
 
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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1415403)
That rating is continuous not peak.

They handle the load just fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by marshall (Post 1415400)
We use them and love them. They work great. We have been using them for about 5+ years now and have not had any issues with over-drawing current or wires or connectors getting hot.

The biggest issue we have had with them is not being crimped properly. We do pull testing now to help with that though.

Excellent. that is what I thought but wanted to make sure.
I have read reviews about the need to make sure to do the crimping properly, so we will make sure to study up on that and learn to do it right.

THANKS!

Donut 20-12-2014 12:15

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I had the same original concerns last year when we decide to try them out. If you want to take a look at the datasheets for in-rush current and temperature rise at continuous load they are available on Anderson's website: http://www.andersonpower.com/product...onnectors.html

Our team loved using them and they definitely saved us a lot of trouble with screwdrivers in tight spaces when we decided to replace every Jaguar on our drivetrain with a Victor Saturday afternoon of our first regional last year. Buy more contacts than the amount of connectors you plan on using so you have some spares when they don't get crimped properly.

IndySam 20-12-2014 12:36

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We have used these for a long time and love them. The key is to have a good crimper, don't skimp and purchase a cheep one.

The one we use.

Mr V 20-12-2014 13:54

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Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 1415417)
We have used these for a long time and love them. The key is to have a good crimper, don't skimp and purchase a cheep one.

The one we use.

+1 if you are going to use Power Pole connectors you need a tool specifically designed for the Power Pole terminals. A ratcheting one is best because it insures that it is fully crimped. If the person operating it doesn't have the hand strength to properly complete the crimp you will know.

tim-tim 20-12-2014 14:12

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We have been using them for years, and have never looked back.

I will echo what others have said, having the correct crimper makes all the difference. There is a link in my signature for the crimper we use. We have two of them.

BenDSterling 21-12-2014 01:16

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We have been using them for years and absolutely love them. If you are worried about the max amps you can get anderson powerpoles in multiple different sizes, all the way up to 350 amps. the different sizes are here: Anderson Powerpoles

runneals 22-12-2014 14:23

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Originally Posted by billbo911 (Post 1415407)
Excellent. that is what I thought but wanted to make sure.
I have read reviews about the need to make sure to do the crimping properly, so we will make sure to study up on that and learn to do it right.

THANKS!

I was making them for my FTC team, and couldn't find anything about how to do it (I even searched youtube). When putting the clip in the plastic connector, you'll need force (I was scared about using too much force and getting it stuck in the wrong position -- which you can't do) :D Good luck!

electroken 26-12-2014 07:51

Re: Anderson Power Pole for motors
 
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Originally Posted by billbo911 (Post 1415398)

The concern I have is their current rating is 45 Amps.

If it makes you feel any better, the continuous current rating of the 12AWG wire on a CIM motor is 41 amps.

Even after 126 matches of pushing in Aerial Assault we saw no evidence of overheated Power-poles.

cgmv123 26-12-2014 10:42

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Originally Posted by electroken (Post 1416987)
12AWG wire on a CIM motor

CIM wires are 14 AWG.

philso 26-12-2014 11:16

Re: Anderson Power Pole for motors
 
You can assemble these with the contacts in various orientations (--, -|, ||,...) so that you can have "special circuits" that can not be plugged into other circuits. I don't recall how many combinations can be achieved so just play with the housings when you get them.

It will take a fair amount of force to un-mate the housings. You can also use a small screwdriver to disengage the retaining tongue and remove the contact from the housing, allowing the housings to be reused.

electroken 29-12-2014 08:06

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Originally Posted by cgmv123 (Post 1416998)

14 AWG is rated for 32 continuous amps, reinforcing the point that the Anderson PP45 contacts are adequate.


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