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Tinmint1 23-12-2014 08:41

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
The field shape and size won't be changing. Andy mark know has a deal with first to reproduce the field so teams would be spending thousands of dollars for a field they can't even use. First wouldn't do that to anyone

Duffy509 23-12-2014 08:42

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyatt Jordan (Post 1416316)
Now looking at the hint. I believe the footage mix-up for the 1997 and 1999 challenges was not a mistake, definitely something there. Also I believe there might be a hint in the scores of the matches, however would FIRST have enough footage to search through to find specific numbers for the beginning games? Probably not, however they definitely have enough footage from the past few years to get the scores they want, so at some point the scores in the challenges may start to have more meaning. I'm suggesting that point is 1999 because that is where the mix up is.

I M almost certain that FIRST has all of the major matches from all the years recorded. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they had every match recorded.

g_sawchuk 23-12-2014 08:48

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
The statement about the field size not changing is correct. If they reused the game, I would hate it unless they modified it well enough. Guess what though? They showed all the years of change. Change happens every year. What if the change is that there is no change? That would be a change. However, I feel that change could refer to the 6 division at Einstein. I think different alliance sizes would be cool, but making it work with the same size field seems unrealistic.

K-Dawg157 23-12-2014 08:53

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Agreed

Riverdance 23-12-2014 08:56

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Someone might have said this already... but after reading a lot of this thread, my teammates and I took another look at the game hint video and although Frank is totally standing on a 2015 field, they don't show the field surface...

lends to the idea that it might not be carpet this year. :ahh:

g_sawchuk 23-12-2014 08:58

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverdance (Post 1416327)
Someone might have said this already... but after reading a lot of this thread, my teammates and I took another look at the game hint video and although Frank is totally standing on a 2015 field, they don't show the field surface...

lends to the idea that it might not be carpet this year. :ahh:

After Lunacy, I'm really hoping that they're smart enough to not have that kind of thing again. However, what would be interesting is patches of different surfaces throughout the field, or the field divided into sectors, each with a different surface. That would make driving different and open surface based strategies.

dradel 23-12-2014 08:59

The more things change the more they stay the same !!

RScottW 23-12-2014 09:01

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenBraun3090 (Post 1416030)
Can anyone list all the years that they made changes and what they are? that might help if there is a pattern.

1992 - Maize Craze - Inaugural Year
1993 - Rug Rage - Increase in size and go wireless
1994 - Tower of Power
1995 - Ramp ‘n Roll
1996 - Hexagon Havoc- Weight Increases
1997 - Toroid Terror
1998 - Ladder Logic
1999 - Double Trouble - Alliances begin
2000 - Co-opertition First
2001 - Diabolical Dynamics - Race against Clock
2002 - Zone Zeal
2003 - Stack Attack - Autonomous Mode
2004 - Raising the Bar
2005 - Triple Play - 3 v 3 introduced
2006 - Aim High
2007 - Rack and Roll
2008 - Overdrive
2009 - Lunacy - surface isn't carpet for first time since ‘92
2010 - Breakaway
2011 - Logomotion
2012 - Rebound Rumble
2013 - Ultimate Ascent - frame perimeter changed
2014 - Aerial Assist
2015 - ???????????

g_sawchuk 23-12-2014 09:03

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RScottW (Post 1416330)
1992 - Maize Craze - Inaugural Year
1993 - Rug Rage - Increase in size and go wireless
1994 - Tower of Power
1995 - Ramp ‘n Roll
1996 - Hexagon Havoc- Weight Increases
1997 - Toroid Terror
1998 - Ladder Logic
1999 - Double Trouble - Alliances begin
2000 - Co-opertition First
2001 - Diabolical Dynamics - Race against Clock
2002 - Zone Zeal
2003 - Stack Attack - Autonomous Mode
2004 - Raising the Bar
2005 - Triple Play - 3 v 3 introduced
2006 - Aim High
2007 - Rack and Roll
2008 - Overdrive
2009 - Lunacy - surface isn't carpet for first time since ‘92
2010 - Breakaway
2011 - Logomotion
2012 - Rebound Rumble
2013 - Ultimate Ascent - frame perimeter changed
2014 - Aerial Assist
2015 - ???????????

As I stated in the interview last night, there's also a pattern rotating from perfectly spherical objects to non spherical objects or spherical objects with holes in them. By objects I mean game pieces. This has been going on since about 2000.

Duffy509 23-12-2014 09:03

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
On the frc blog Frank made a comment titled 97 footage for 99 game that read whoops. I guess they did just make a mistake. Here is the link for anyone interested. http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...is-a-game-hint

dc74089 23-12-2014 09:05

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Too lazy to find the post that mentioned it earlier, but I think it warrants repeating that Frank posted a much more... Straightforward version of this hint on the blog in October. Not saying that there isn't something hidden in the video, but Frank has pretty much confirmed that a major rule, something that's been a part of FRC for multiple years now, is changing. My vote is on no teleop this year. Just think, giant metal 6-player FLL. *That* would be change.

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...g-New-for-2015

g_sawchuk 23-12-2014 09:07

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dc74089 (Post 1416333)
Too lazy to find the post that mentioned it earlier, but I think it warrants repeating that Frank posted a much more... Straightforward version of this hint on the blog in October. Not saying that there isn't something hidden in the video, but Frank has pretty much confirmed that a major rule, something that's been a part of FRC for multiple years now, is changing. My vote is on no teleop this year. Just think, giant metal 6-player FLL. *That* would be change.

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...g-New-for-2015

I think no teleop would really take away from team cooperation. Don't think FIRST would ever do that.

Ryan_Davis 23-12-2014 09:09

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dc74089 (Post 1416333)
Too lazy to find the post that mentioned it earlier, but I think it warrants repeating that Frank posted a much more... Straightforward version of this hint on the blog in October. Not saying that there isn't something hidden in the video, but Frank has pretty much confirmed that a major rule, something that's been a part of FRC for multiple years now, is changing. My vote is on no teleop this year. Just think, giant metal 6-player FLL. *That* would be change.

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...g-New-for-2015

This is the most terrifying theory I've read. I'm the sole programming mentor.

K-Dawg157 23-12-2014 09:16

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duffy509 (Post 1416332)
On the frc blog Frank made a comment titled 97 footage for 99 game that read whoops. I guess they did just make a mistake. Here is the link for anyone interested. http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...is-a-game-hint

This could totally be a sarcastic comment. He could be saying "whoops, I know I did it wrong, I just want you to think it was an accident."

You never know with FIRST:confused:

Laaba 80 23-12-2014 09:23

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
The game is named Change. "Change" is coming. This was also Frank's audition tape to be the new movie promo voice over guy.


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