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notmattlythgoe 29-12-2014 14:26

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr V (Post 1417729)
No, no, no a thousand times no. Frank loves to troll CD however he is not going to authorize spending thousands of dollars just to troll CD and confuse people. What ever the collection of items that is 3x3x60 you can be assured that they are ~60" long and can not be folded or otherwise fit into a smaller dimension. Anything that does not fit on a standard 40" x 48" pallet that the collection of items is not under a total of 48" high, including the pallet will be more expensive to ship. That 60" long collection of items is also a pain for some people to transport home in their particular vehicle. So Frank is not going to authorize inconveniencing the majority of the FRC community just to mess with the minority that is on CD.

Tl/DR; The 3" x 3" x 60" collection of items could not be packed in something substantially less than 60" long.

Agreed.

Dominator1619 29-12-2014 14:38

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Can you choose what still image is shown before a video is played? Don't know much about how youtube works (never posted a video on there) but if a still can be chosen then maybe something can be taken from the fact that stack attack is the image shown?

MattRain 29-12-2014 14:47

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominator1619 (Post 1417740)
Can you choose what still image is shown before a video is played? Don't know much about how youtube works (never posted a video on there) but if a still can be chosen then maybe something can be taken from the fact that stack attack is the image shown?

I like your thinking...:cool:

Poseidon5817 29-12-2014 15:01

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominator1619 (Post 1417740)
Can you choose what still image is shown before a video is played? Don't know much about how youtube works (never posted a video on there) but if a still can be chosen then maybe something can be taken from the fact that stack attack is the image shown?


Unless you have a partnership with Youtube, you can't choose custom thumbnails (the image shown as the preview thingy).

AllenGregoryIV 29-12-2014 15:09

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Poseidon1671 (Post 1417747)
Unless you have a partnership with Youtube, you can't choose custom thumbnails (the image shown as the preview thingy).

Yes you can. There is an option to upload an image or to select between a few screen grabs that YouTube picks for you, when you click to edit a video that you uploaded. I'm not sure that is is available to all users but I know we can on the Spectrum3847 channel, so I assume FIRST can as well.

MattRain 29-12-2014 15:17

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
What were the game hints for Stack Attack in 2003? Anyone know.. A big change that year was Autonomous being introduced.

spearbc 29-12-2014 15:29

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
He seems to "recycle" the 2014 game manual. Perhaps they are recycling one aspect of the 2014 game such as the assist mechanics.

BC

AllenGregoryIV 29-12-2014 15:47

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Alright, at this point everyone should get the hint that any discussion of any sort of leaked information is going to be removed.

FIRST HQ will tell us information when they are ready and Kick Off is only 5 days away anyway. Chill out a bit, spend some quality time with your friends and family and ring in the new year. No need in making the moderators work harder to remove things.

Oblarg 29-12-2014 15:49

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1417764)
Alright, at this point everyone should get the hint that any discussion of any sort of leaked information is going to be removed.

Are you sure this is wise policy, though? If information has been leaked, then it's been leaked. There's no un-leaking it; those who have seen it can benefit and those who haven't can't - wouldn't the best form of "damage control" be to just put it out there so everyone is on equal footing?

AllenGregoryIV 29-12-2014 15:54

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblarg (Post 1417765)
Are you sure this is wise policy, though? If information has been leaked, then it's been leaked. There's no un-leaking it; those who have seen it can benefit and those who haven't can't - wouldn't the best form of "damage control" be to just put it out there so everyone is on equal footing?

I'm not making any policy, or agreeing with any policy. I'm just saying that if the post is going to be deleted, there is no reason to post it and make the moderators do more work. The moderators are good people and I'm sure they have better things to do with their time. We all agree to abide by FIRST's rules by being in their competition and one of their rules is the time line at which information is released. If they want to release the leaked information to everyone that is their decision but I don't believe that it's mine or anyone else's to make for them.

T3_1565 29-12-2014 16:06

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1417764)
Alright, at this point everyone should get the hint that any discussion of any sort of leaked information is going to be removed.

FIRST HQ will tell us information when they are ready and Kick Off is only 5 days away anyway. Chill out a bit, spend some quality time with your friends and family and ring in the new year. No need in making the moderators work harder to remove things.

+1 agreed

gegozi 29-12-2014 16:22

Skateboarding
 
They said there would be CHANGE, so it could possibly be skateboarding...

MrJohnston 29-12-2014 17:12

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
I have to throw out some thoughts...

* The emphasis on "Change" with the recycling of the rule book suggests to me that there is going to be a structural change in the game.... Something fundamental to the structure.... FIRST does want to find ways to get more teams involved and give teams more games at each competition... The rectangular structure of the field being sold on AndyMark strongly suggests that we continue to have two teams, so.... Two teams of four robots? Slightly smaller robot dimensions so as to give eight robots more room to roam on the field?

* What about the game? If it is another game with balls... We haven't done anything with footballs, tennis balls or whiffle balls... I reject the idea of hockey pucks: they are too dangerous. We've shot a lot of things through holes/hoops/goals... Stacking? Perhaps in a tube like the FTC game? I don't see a direct copy happening.... Okay: whiffle balls put into holes at each end of the court, but the holes are small enough that throwing them from any distance would be unreasonable. Instead they have to be placed precisely? Some holes would be really high and small for lots of points. Others could be larger and low for fewer...

* There needs to be something in the middle of the field as an obstacle or structure... perhaps for additional points... A target for each team in the center... Points are given for all robots that finish the match inside the target? Of course it would be too small for more than a pair of robots to squeeze into comfortably... Perhaps a second "coopertition" target for which "competition" points are scored for both teams if robots from two teams are inside? (Similar to balancing robots in Rebound Rumble?)..... Oooh Here's a twist: the last 20 seconds (instead of first) of each match is the autonomous phase and robots can't enter the circle until teleop ends....

I am looking forward to Saturday..... I have robots on the brain already...

T3_1565 29-12-2014 17:48

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Have an end game auto mode still sounds so exciting to me. The only problem I see is when a rookie team doesn't use auto. or auto it not working so you just have a 20 sec sit still time at the end of a match.

But I think the pros of end game auto wayyyy outweigh the cons.

stepan 29-12-2014 20:19

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
I never said that that picture was a real leak. I posted it to ask you guys if you knew anything about the legitimacy of it. It could very well have been photoshopped.


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