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Bochek 22-12-2014 21:03

"Change Is Coming" Discussion thread
 
GO!

cmrnpizzo14 22-12-2014 21:03

2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Hint here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAET...ature=youtu.be

"Change is coming"

Woah, this hint is weird.... what do you think?

SoulianPride 22-12-2014 21:04

Change is coming - 2015 Game Hint
 
So, opinions on the official release of the 2015 game hint?

DonRotolo 22-12-2014 21:04

Re: "Change Is Coming" Discussion thread
 
You know: Pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters absolutely frighten me.
You see, I am afraid of change...:rolleyes: :p

lucas.alvarez96 22-12-2014 21:04

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Recycling of the changes present in all the mentioned years?

VacioArconte 22-12-2014 21:04

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
They are recycling something... and the water cycle recycles water... water game confirmed?

SoulianPride 22-12-2014 21:06

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Recycling game pieces? Adding a 3rd alliance?

smarthimandrew 22-12-2014 21:07

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
The timestamps are important.

Refresh 22-12-2014 21:07

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Alright, let me see if I can follow the clues...

Change is coming is a riff off of Winter is coming from Game of Thrones...
Winter is the 4th season of the year...
Water freezes in the winter...
Water game confirmed?

matthewdenny 22-12-2014 21:07

Discuss the Game Hint
 
What did you think?

What does throwing away the manual mean?

Not all years were in there...

Thoughts?

SoulianPride 22-12-2014 21:10

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Refresh (Post 1416022)
Alright, let me see if I can follow the clues...

Change is coming is a riff off of Winter is coming from Game of Thrones...
Winter is the 4th season of the year...
Water freezes in the winter...
Water game confirmed?

This logic is hard to beat.

beefbobjones 22-12-2014 21:10

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Well, I know some people think the recycling thing will involve reusing old game pieces/ mechanics but I just feel like that would give new teams a real disadvantage.

dodar 22-12-2014 21:10

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
2002 Stack Attack + 2009 Lunacy = 2015 Game Confirmed

indubitably 22-12-2014 21:10

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Recycling the 2014 game:

adding endgame
some other major change

BenBraun3090 22-12-2014 21:10

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Can anyone list all the years that they made changes and what they are? that might help if there is a pattern.

Anthony4004 22-12-2014 21:11

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beefbobjones (Post 1416026)
Well, I know some people think the recycling thing will involve reusing old game pieces/ mechanics but I just feel like that would give new teams a real disadvantage.

Not quite, considering how much footage and material is on the web. They can easily do well.

JohnFogarty 22-12-2014 21:11

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
the return of the end game

Minten 22-12-2014 21:11

Re: Change is coming - 2015 Game Hint
 
Water game

guniv 22-12-2014 21:11

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Video is up on FRC's YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAET...ature=youtu.be

BenBraun3090 22-12-2014 21:12

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by indubitably (Post 1416029)
Recycling the 2014 game:

adding endgame
some other major change

I doubt that they're going to do that. That would just be really boring and against anything creative.

NHoffmann 22-12-2014 21:12

Re: Discuss the Game Hint
 
All the years were covered, just lag was bad enough that a few appeared to get skipped.

Anthony4004 22-12-2014 21:13

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Also, next years FLL game has to do with recycling......pattern? I would think so.

NWalker 22-12-2014 21:13

Re: "Change Is Coming" Discussion thread
 
Change is coming
change
coins
circles
hockey pucks
ice
water
WATER GAME CONFIRMED!!!

He recycles the 2014 Manual
recycling
blue
water
WATER GAME DOUBLY CONFIRMED!!!

Change is coming
16 letters
FIRST
5 letters
5*2=10
16-10=6
6 upside down looks like 9
Water Game has 9 letters
WATER GAME TRIPLY CONFIRMED!!!

Minten 22-12-2014 21:13

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
I can't tell if water or pizza. But pizza = triangle = Illuminati confirmed.

who716 22-12-2014 21:14

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
alot of dumping into biins

The_ShamWOW88 22-12-2014 21:14

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
two different gamepieces....

nfhammes 22-12-2014 21:15

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
So, "Change is coming" prefaced by a list of games, their major rules changes to basic elements of how the games work, most of which occurred in odd years. So the field is changing shape, composition, or dimensions, or something else.

I don't see how this is substantially more information than when Frank mentioned earlier in the year to take nothing for granted, that anything might change. If the recycling bin is relevant, it might be saying "We're bringing something old back, that we've long-since changed". Perhaps the 3v3 model is changing? That could relate to the way Einstein is being run, since the footage seemed to be all from Einstein.

indubitably 22-12-2014 21:15

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenBraun3090 (Post 1416035)
I doubt that they're going to do that. That would just be really boring and against anything creative.

There was a whole thread discussing the possibility, the GDC had considered 3 year game cycles way back when but perhaps a surprise 2 year game cycle?

They literally recycled the 2014 game manual in the video lol

tindleroot 22-12-2014 21:16

Re: Discuss the Game Hint
 
Frank is standing on an FRC field when he recycles the manual

TAlholm 22-12-2014 21:16

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
I added the intervals and got 19. The number 19 has been retired the most in the NHL

thatprogrammer 22-12-2014 21:16

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
It looks to me like frank flipped 2 pages. That means he was on the page with assists and cycles. Add in the fact that he threw it into a recycling bin, and it seems like we might be looking at how cycles are done changing.

BenBraun3090 22-12-2014 21:17

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
1993: robots increase in size and go wireless
1996: robot weight increases
1999: robot alliances begin
2001: robots race against the clock
2003: autonomous mode introduced
2005: 3 vs. 3 introduced
2009: primary field surface isn't carpet for the first time since 1992
2013: field perimeter changes

Those are all the changes listed in the video

matthewdenny 22-12-2014 21:17

Re: Discuss the Game Hint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NHoffmann (Post 1416036)
All the years were covered, just lag was bad enough that a few appeared to get skipped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAET...ature=youtu.be

You are correct.

StAxis 22-12-2014 21:17

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Is there something not part of the field walls in the very bottom right part of the frame at the very end?

I'm also curious if recycling might have something to do with more relaxed rules for reusing parts?

weaversam8 22-12-2014 21:17

I believe I heard that all of the footage in this video was from Einstein fields.

matthewdenny 22-12-2014 21:18

Re: Discuss the Game Hint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1416045)
Frank is standing on an FRC field when he recycles the manual

Does the rail look higher than usual?

dodar 22-12-2014 21:18

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StAxis (Post 1416050)
Is there something not part of the field walls in the very bottom right part of the frame at the very end?

I'm also curious if recycling might have something to do with more relaxed rules for reusing parts?

I saw that too but cant tell because of the reflection of the gate.

markmcgary 22-12-2014 21:18

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenBraun3090 (Post 1416048)
2013: field perimeter changes

I think it was the robot perimeter that changed.

magnets 22-12-2014 21:19

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
A list of all FRC games with changes called out emphasizes the weird changes/twists FIRST has done in the past. This makes me think this year's game will be a unique one. Next, he claims "change is coming", then recycles the 2014 rules.

I really, really, really, really hope they aren't recycling the 2014 rules and adding some changes. It's one of my biggest fears :ahh:

BenBraun3090 22-12-2014 21:19

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by indubitably (Post 1416043)
There was a whole thread discussing the possibility, the GDC had considered 3 year game cycles way back when but perhaps a surprise 2 year game cycle?

They literally recycled the 2014 game manual in the video lol

Even though they did this, there are still a lot of other ways to take that.

AlexChoi 22-12-2014 21:19

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
There is a single instance of the word "recycle" in the 2014 game manual.
http://i.gyazo.com/9a10fb70557196f556276052d5dd3613.png

This is in the permitted motors section. Maybe their's something to do with windows? ie. drivers don't get a window any more. That one guy on the phone that mentioned it may be on to something.

artK 22-12-2014 21:19

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Not all the footage is from Einstein. The 2012 footage comes from the Archimedes finals, the 2009 footage is from something other than Einstein.

Anthony4004 22-12-2014 21:20

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by indubitably (Post 1416043)
There was a whole thread discussing the possibility, the GDC had considered 3 year game cycles way back when but perhaps a surprise 2 year game cycle?

They literally recycled the 2014 game manual in the video lol

Exactly. Frank didnt simply throw it away, he recycled it.
Also, care to take a wager that the fact he was on the game field relevant?

tindleroot 22-12-2014 21:20

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Has anyone considered that Frank simply used a recycling bin simply because he wants to help save the environment? I think the "change" is more pertinent to the game than the recycling.

BenBraun3090 22-12-2014 21:20

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StAxis (Post 1416050)
Is there something not part of the field walls in the very bottom right part of the frame at the very end?

I'm also curious if recycling might have something to do with more relaxed rules for reusing parts?

I'm not sure if there is anything, but that's that seems like it could be pretty good for the recycling.

theCADguy 22-12-2014 21:21

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
The Greek Letter delta represents change in math, and is a triangle. A recycling symbol also is a triangle. Maybe triangular game pieces?

Ekcrbe 22-12-2014 21:21

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nfhammes (Post 1416042)
That could relate to the way Einstein is being run, since the footage seemed to be all from Einstein.

It's not. The 2012 clip is from Archimedes, as evidenced by the scoreboard note at the bottom.

cmrnpizzo14 22-12-2014 21:22

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
He recycles the hint but says change is coming. "The more things change, the more they stay the same"?

SoulianPride 22-12-2014 21:22

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StAxis (Post 1416050)
Is there something not part of the field walls in the very bottom right part of the frame at the very end?

It looks like it's just the gate for exiting the field to me...

Donut 22-12-2014 21:22

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by who716 (Post 1416040)
alot of dumping into biins

Let's just take the literal approach.

Recycling bins are the 2015 game piece. The bin is on the field for the hint after all.

Jared 22-12-2014 21:22

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weaversam8 (Post 1416051)
I believe I heard that all of the footage in this video was from Einstein fields.

2012 is from archimedes finals with 1114, 2056, and 4334.

Compared to Frank, the recycling bin appears to be a tall and skinny one (up to his hips), but compared to the field border, it seems quite short.

I might just be seeing things though...

mrnoble 22-12-2014 21:23

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Almost every bit of the footage showed something happening at the highest height that each year shown reached for. It seems pretty straightforward on that front: we will be going high this year, probably with an elevator. Taller maximum starting configuration? High goal at 15'?

I suspect that they are serious that there will be unprecedented changes to the robots and game play this year. We won't be cruising through build season, I think.

DavisC 22-12-2014 21:23

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theCADguy (Post 1416062)
The Greek Letter delta represents change in math, and is a triangle. A recycling symbol also is a triangle. Maybe triangular game pieces?

True! Also, the recycling bin of course has a triangle on it!

JeffersonMartin 22-12-2014 21:24

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
The paperclip on the game manual looked somewhat triangular. 3 team alliances?

Anteprefix 22-12-2014 21:24

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Recycle the letters in "change is coming" and you get "mechanics going".

Jarren Harkema 22-12-2014 21:24

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1416060)
Has anyone considered that Frank simply used a recycling bin simply because he wants to help save the environment? I think the "change" is more pertinent to the game than the recycling.

He forgot to take out the giant paperclip holding the pages together. Any recycler would know not to mix your materials.

Anthony4004 22-12-2014 21:24

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenBraun3090 (Post 1416048)
1993: robots increase in size and go wireless
1996: robot weight increases
1999: robot alliances begin
2001: robots race against the clock
2003: autonomous mode introduced
2005: 3 vs. 3 introduced
2009: primary field surface isn't carpet for the first time since 1992
2013: field perimeter changes

Those are all the changes listed in the video

3-3-2-2-4-4?
Also, Frank was on the 2nd page which (as someone pointed out) is the page about assist and cycling. What if this points back to this cycle? Which would be now

3-3-2-2-4-4-2

Does this mean were looking at 2003?

mrnoble 22-12-2014 21:25

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theCADguy (Post 1416062)
The Greek Letter delta represents change in math, and is a triangle. A recycling symbol also is a triangle. Maybe triangular game pieces?

I think you may be right. Game will be called "First Delta", with triangular game pieces.

DHP7320 22-12-2014 21:26

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
2015 Jr FLL and FLL challenges both have to do with waste & recycling. Waste Wise and Trash Trek are the respective challenge names. Maybe the FRC game theme will follow suit.

http://juniorfirstlegoleague.org/201...challenge.html
http://www.firstlegoleague.org/challenge/2015trashtrek

brandon.cottrell 22-12-2014 21:26

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by artK (Post 1416058)
the 2009 footage is from something other than Einstein.

2009 Michigan FIRST Robotics Competition State Championship Quarter Finals 3-?, cant tell which one, also this was Michigan's First Season with Districts.

BenBraun3090 22-12-2014 21:26

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
2003 would be a good game to recycle for this year. there hasn't been any manipulation games for any of the current high school FRC participants. so a manipulation game would be a big chang

SoulianPride 22-12-2014 21:27

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
A Delta is a piece of land shaped like a triangle that is formed when a river splits into smaller rivers before it flows into an ocean. Water game confirmed?

In all seriousness I think the field will be triangular this year and will add a 3rd alliance whether it be 2v2v2 or 3v3v3

Jared 22-12-2014 21:28

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoulianPride (Post 1416078)
A Delta is a piece of land shaped like a triangle that is formed when a river splits into smaller rivers before it flows into an ocean. Water game confirmed?

In all seriousness I think the field will be triangular this year and will add a 3rd alliance whether it be 2v2v2 or 3v3v3

FIRST approved this field by andymark for the 2015 game, and it's still our favorite 27'x54'.
http://www.andymark.com/Field-p/am-2800.htm

Maine951 22-12-2014 21:29

Re: Discuss the Game Hint
 
I made a list of all the games showed and what were said under the year and title. Over all these are all the ones that had some type of caption to the title.

1992 Maize Craze: Inavgural Competition
1993 Rub Rage: Robots increase in size and go wireless
1996 Hexagon Havoc: Robot weight increase
1999 Double Trouble: Robot Alliances begin
2001 Diabolical Dynamics: Robots race against clock
2003 Stack Attack: Autonamous mode introduced
2005 Trupple Play: 3v3 Introduced
2009 Lunacy Primary field surface isn't carpet for first time since 1992
2013 Ultimate Ascent : Frame perimeter changes

The pattern is the sizes of the robots and the alliances.

Anthony4004 22-12-2014 21:30

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoulianPride (Post 1416078)
A Delta is a piece of land shaped like a triangle that is formed when a river splits into smaller rivers before it flows into an ocean. Water game confirmed?

In all seriousness I think the field will be triangular this year and will add a 3rd alliance whether it be 2v2v2 or 3v3v3

I feel this woukd be too far of a stretch, as it would be harder to hold competitions, as well as new fields would have to be created for just this.

BenBraun3090 22-12-2014 21:30

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared (Post 1416079)
FIRST approved this field by andymark for the 2015 game, and it's still our favorite 27'x54'.
http://www.andymark.com/Field-p/am-2800.htm

and if the field is still 27'x54' then i doubt that we would have 3 alliances

mrnoble 22-12-2014 21:30

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
I'd be willing to say the field could go to a "delta" shape and have three alliances, except for the fact that the AndyMark field has been pre-approved for the 2015 game. They just can't go back on that, unless there is an alternate way to build the field (which I don't think is the case). We will stay with two alliances.

dodar 22-12-2014 21:30

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
How has no one brought up the biggest change!?! No more safety glasses needed while on the field.

E Dawg 22-12-2014 21:30

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
No game rules will change, but the FRC game will begin to receive "themes" like FLL does - in this case, waste and recycling.

Metahint.

BenBraun3090 22-12-2014 21:31

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by E Dawg (Post 1416085)
No game rules will change, but the FRC game will begin to receive "themes" like FLL does - in this case, waste and recycling.

Metahint.

so how would this be a hint to the game itself?

Michael Hill 22-12-2014 21:32

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
What if by "change", he means money?

E Dawg 22-12-2014 21:32

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenBraun3090 (Post 1416087)
so how would this be a hint to the game itself?

We know that the game this year is about recycling?

mrnoble 22-12-2014 21:33

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Hill (Post 1416088)
What if by "change", he means money?

I cheaper game to play? Noice.

GKrotkov 22-12-2014 21:33

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
This video is exactly 1 minute long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAET...ature=youtu.be

Is match time becoming one minute? That would certainly be a change.

magnets 22-12-2014 21:33

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Hill (Post 1416088)
What if by "change", he means money?

I would be okay if he was telling us that money is coming:rolleyes:

EricH 22-12-2014 21:33

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenBraun3090 (Post 1416082)
and if the field is still 27'x54' then i doubt that we would have 3 alliances

I don't even need a field size to tell me that there will never, ever, ever be 3 alliances on the field. Just hearing about what happened in 1998--and the reaction from FIRST, in 1999--is more than enough. Won't be 3 alliances... but might be 4-team alliances.


My opinion:

We will see some prior game, from 1992-2014 inclusive, or some combination of such games, with changes for XvX, where X>=3, and enough changes to make it unrecognizable.

Anybody wanna play 2000 with footballs and the option to shoot?

Michael Hill 22-12-2014 21:34

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by magnets (Post 1416092)
I would be okay if he was telling us that money is coming:rolleyes:

Maybe they found a way to drastically reduce the cost of running a regional and are going to refund everyone $1000!!! I'll take it.

tindleroot 22-12-2014 21:35

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Many game hints are actually just name reveals. 2011 revealed "Logomotion" and last year revealed "Assists", and I think 2013 did a similar thing.

IronicDeadBird 22-12-2014 21:35

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
If you listen carefully to the noise the paper makes as it hits the recycling bin it sounds like its saying.
Water game....
HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED!!!!!!

Michael Hill 22-12-2014 21:36

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1416096)
Many game hints are actually just name reveals. 2011 revealed "Logomotion" and last year revealed "Assists", and I think 2013 did a similar thing.

"Recycled Robots"

Anthony Galea 22-12-2014 21:36

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
People have paper balls wadded up and throw them into recycling bins and play it like basketball. 2014 rules were thrown into the basket, so assists are being recycled. 2011 didn't have the change in the video.

2012 basketball, with scoring, 2014 assists system, 2011 endgame.

StAxis 22-12-2014 21:37

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
A lot of people seem to be on the triangle hype train right now. Triangular paper clip, change being symbolized by delta, and to add to that, the interior angles of an equilateral triangle are 60 degrees, which is exactly how long the video is in seconds.

Beaker 22-12-2014 21:38

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DHP7320 (Post 1416075)
2015 Jr FLL and FLL challenges both have to do with waste & recycling. Waste Wise and Trash Trek are the respective challenge names. Maybe the FRC game theme will follow suit.

http://juniorfirstlegoleague.org/201...challenge.html
http://www.firstlegoleague.org/challenge/2015trashtrek

Also in FLL this year, the field surface changed from canvas (higher traction) to a slippery paper surface.

The recycling bin could be recycling old surfaces from (hopefully not) 2009 Lunacy. Otherwise: water game confirmed.

brandon.cottrell 22-12-2014 21:38

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Actually, touching back on my earlier point that the 2009 and 2012 clips weren't Einstein, there were some things that "Changed" that year too.

2009 was the first year for Districts in Michigan, and sure enough a clip from Michigan was shown.

2012 was the first year a team from somewhere outside the U.S. won the Chairman's Award, and sure enough 1114 was shown.

mrnoble 22-12-2014 21:38

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
[quote=StAxis;1416100]A lot of people seem to be on the triangle hype train right now. /QUOTE]

Count me in that group. The name of the game will include the word "delta".

David8696 22-12-2014 21:39

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
The song from the video is a royalty-free track called "Social Disgrace" from a stock music website called Wavtracks music:

http://www.wavtracks.com/index.php?m...ducts _id=251

zachrobo1 22-12-2014 21:39

Re: Discuss the Game Hint
 
Okay, here is my personal breakdown of the topic from what has happened so far. I tried to sort it based on assumptions.

Hint: "Change is Coming"

Assumption: Change is taken to mean "the act or instance of making or becoming different."
Conclusion: Drastically different game than we've seen before. Perhaps no high goals; maybe a hockey game? This could be a multitude of things, especially due to the fact that they referenced a whole bunch of previous games.
Assumption: The game has something to do with paper/bins.
Conclusion: Perhaps we are scoring elements in bins, and then moving the bins? Maybe there will be goals attached to robots? Perhaps the recycling aspect will have something to do with re-scoring already scored elements.
Assumption: Change is taken to mean currency or coins.
Conclusion: Really small game pieces?
These are just my scattered thoughts right now.. more to come later

Jade Z 22-12-2014 21:40

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Last year much grief was given to FIRST about the overuse of penalties in the game. Numerous essays were written on the subject and posted on this very forum. The biggest complaint about Aerial Assist, the 2014 game, was that the rules were too strict.

He's throwing away the game manual- perhaps the penalties are going back to a more reasonable volume. They've realized the referees can't reasonably watch for an entire book of infractions at once.

Nate Laverdure 22-12-2014 21:40

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
http://www.manchesternh.gov/Recycle-...-Can-I-Recycle

BriteBacon 22-12-2014 21:40

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but most, if not all, of the clips have to do with how scoring took place in that year.

PopeRyanI 22-12-2014 21:40

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
If you rearrange the letters in "change is coming" you get mechanics going among other.

Anyway I support the triangle idea.

Pratik Kunapuli 22-12-2014 21:41

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
The last year where there were mobile goals not attached to robots was in 2004. Perhaps the recycling bin on the floor means there will be mobile goals.

matthew_martin 22-12-2014 21:41

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
What are things that have stayed constant through ALL past games?
Drivebases. DRONE GAME CONFIRMED.
But seriously, that consistency thing might be something worth looking into.

brandon.cottrell 22-12-2014 21:42

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BriteBacon (Post 1416108)
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but most, if not all, of the clips have to do with how scoring took place in that year.

1997 and 1999 weren't

BenBraun3090 22-12-2014 21:43

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BriteBacon (Post 1416108)
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but most, if not all, of the clips have to do with how scoring took place in that year.

All of them were about scoring.

Sorry, my mistake. all but a couple

Christopher149 22-12-2014 21:43

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Maybe it's not change, but Chang'e, China's lunar exploration program and the name of the moon goddess. Lunacy coming back? </cringe>

phantomace 22-12-2014 21:46

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
So this whole game has to with change. The people in robotics usually are nerdy kids. We are going to change them so they can have swagger like me. #Diversty
#swag #CantBeFlyLikeMe

magnets 22-12-2014 21:46

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenBraun3090 (Post 1416113)
All of them were about scoring.

1995 is a robot lifting a ball, 1997 is a robot driving, 1999 is two robots driving, 2002 is a robot driving, 2009 has no scoring, and 2011 has no scoring.

beefbobjones 22-12-2014 21:47

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
If the recycling bins are game pieces I officially call dibs on making Junk Bot :)


RegaCaska 22-12-2014 21:47

Re: 2015 HINT DISCUSSION
 
I would like to point out that lunacy's caption states, "Primary field surface isn't carpet for first time since 1992."

Both "Primary" and "first time since 1992" read out to me.

maybe two different field surfaces.

They better not be recycling the material they used for the regolith in lunacy.


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