2017 Game Speculation
 

I figure this will be just as likely as the current 2015 game hint discussion, so here goes. I predict an aerial water game with 2014's secret truss hang endgame, and a section with the corn from Maize Madness. Any other guesses?

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The game pieces will be made out of denim.

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The field will be made of denim.

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Denim is mandatory on bumper covers.

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Drive teams must wear matching, all denim costumes.

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You must wire your robot with denim.

Denim is love, denumismatic life.

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It'll be a racing game like 2008, and it will be called Denim Derby.

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All robots must highly resemble a game animation robot. And wheel traction material must be denim.

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The robots will be origami made out of folded sheets of denim.

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The game piece will be a life-sized mannequin of Dean Kamen riding a Segway. Consequently the game piece will be covered with denim.

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It's threads like this that make me wish there was some way for me to log into my CD account, and then be able to hide certain threads from the portal.

I'm glad you all enjoy this thread. It just made me think how awesome a feature that would be on CD. I'd be able to keep track of so many more threads that I have an interest in.

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Diabolical Denim?

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Combining ideas of aerial, water, and denim games, perhaps we will need to first wash the denim game piece in water, then hang it up about 10 ft. off the ground in order to dry. I call it: Ludicrous Laundry

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Welcome to Reddit.

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Do you mean Reddenim?

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I hope they have lax denim color coding rules. Sometimes I forget when I'm supposed to use acid washed vs faded.

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Robots will not be allowed to weigh more then 150 pairs of jeans

The blue half of the field will be 100% Denim. Even the drivers' station.

The Bill of Materials must be in a denim binder.

All Refs will wear denim to be easier to identify.

In addition to the game, the safety manual will be updated to indicate that ALL safety glasses must have denim sides, and your cart must have denim on it to prevent injury.

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The drive team is literally denim.

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I gave a roll to Dean in NYC in 2015, so this is an essential for all FRC teams https://jet.com/product/product/919a...FQsXHwod1HUH8A

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The kit of parts is a hundred yards of denim.

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The game will start with each team throwing denim clothes onto the field, robots will pick up the clothes, fold them and then place them on a rack. The game will be called Off the Rack.

After the game the clothes will be auctioned off.
The winning slogan will be: "My buddy went to an FRC competition and all I got were these denim threads."

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Safety jeans must be worn by competitors. Those who fail to do so will not be allowed in the pits.

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You're all way off, It's simple:

Clue 1. The FLL game this year is "Animal Alliance"
Clue 2. We can assume that FIRST wants to keep theme-ing the FRC games
Clue 3. What theme goes with "Animals"? Jungle!

The game will be jungle themed, what lives in a jungle? Gorillaz, this means two things:

1. Harambe will be a focal point in the game
2. There will be a performance from the Gorillaz at St Louis to celebrate their last champs

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That will never happen. There's not enough denim :p

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What about the denim? Do you have to put overalls on Harambe?

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Your robot must be covered in denim, no exceptions.

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The new radio will be made of denim. In addition, all drive computers must be made of denim.

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NEW and (hopefully) Improved Riveted Denim Antennas! Guaranteed to increase radio boot times by up to 1000% over the now obsolete duct tape assisted aluminum foil antenna!!

Now I wonder how fast those denim-core processors are...

Not very good- they blue screen ALL the time!!



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Do women's safety jeans have pockets?

After reading this thread, denim does not sound like a real word.

My dislike of all full legged clothing makes me thankful that this rule is only for competitors, not volunteers.

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Our team actually made a pair of practice denim bumpers this year. They didn't last long, unfortunately.

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I've attached a spreadsheet I made on the characteristics of past game pieces, 1992-2016. It has their shapes, sizes, weights, and other info. A breakdown of the spreadsheet terminology...

For size:
Extra Small: Small enough to hold easily in one hand(1992).
Small: ~6" - ~12" for a sphere, or small in comparison to robot size(2016).
Medium: ~13" - ~30" spheres, not too big when compared to robot size(2014).
Large: ~30" - ~40" spheres, big or bulky when compared to robot size(2015).
Extra large: ~40"+ spheres, as big or bigger than robots(2005).

For abbreviations, CIR = circle, SQ = sqaure, CYL = cylinder, TRI = triangle.

About the "filler" column:
None means the game piece is hollow or empty(just contains ambient air), or is a solid material(like 2016 and 2012).
Air means it's filled with pressurized air(inflated). 1992 is listed as air because tennis balls are filled with pressurized air, but they eventually flatten out.
The rest are self-explanatory.

Some notes:
Weight and size do not scale with each other(a small ball filled with water probably weighs more than a tube full of air).
Spheres are the most common game piece so far.
From 2003 forward, you can see the not-a-sphere, sphere, not-a-sphere, sphere pattern.
Cylinders and flying discs are the least common game pieces.

What hasn't been used as a game piece? Cubes, and star/pointed objects...

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Initially when I read, I saw the word Space, and later the word Bass. So I said hmm... Space... Base... then I thought of the Space Race. The world's competition to get the a very advanced peak into space, which started during the Cold War, would also fuel the race to launch the first satellites to orbit the Earth.

After reading above about the travel to Jupiter in 2001: A Space Odyssey (I've never watched it because of the amount of "static action"), I looked into it. Jupiter has a plethora of moons, 67 known in fact, and I also found that Galileo discovered the first 4. What are they known as? The Galilean Satellites. Galileo's discovery of these moons was when he discovered the orbit, the curved path around a star, planet, or moon.

That's all I've got.

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The FRC blog post regarding the not yet released teaser was mostly about science fiction innovations made reality. However, at the end of the post was this line:
Combining both of these, I think the game might be to create a robot to help run a sort of futuristic restaurant.
That, or maybe he was just hungry when writing that blog post.

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Honestly, why do threads like this even exist. I do love humor, but honestly the same thing is just repeated every year. I come to these rumor mill threads in order to find some weird quirk within the game design that an ingenious student found. However, I am just met with hundreds of comments on denim and water games. Again, it wouldn't even be half bad if the comments were actually funny, rather than just being reused from last year.

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STRONGHOLD 2 CONFIRMED

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5 gallon water jugs stacked into shaped pallets then the pallets are raised to a height. ( we finally get our water game)

Better that Recycle rush cause defense can be played while gathering the jugs from a common area.

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Something I noticed about a week ago is the first part of the game name:

STEAMworks.

STEAM = Science Technology Engineering Art and Mathematics

I have no idea whether or not this will have anything to do with the game(probably not), but it could. Even if it doesn't, FIRST made a good pun.

Still hoping for a water game where the robots are made of denim though.

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You see, everyone looks to the blimp as a game piece, but really, it's just going to be a simple scoring mechanism for the audience (i.e. the flag this year), as one team scores, their blimp goes up, so in the audiences perspective, they can just look at what team has a higher blimp! Now, you might ask, "why would first do this?", and the answer is simple, Recycle Rush, most people will rave day and night about how that game was terrible and so boring, and First sets this up to make it more interesting for the audience, you're not looking a robots making stacks, you're watching a race between two airships! Wow!

But for gameplay itself, instead of the blimp as a game piece, it will really be the most prominent thing on the logo, the HAT. you see, teams will stack oversized top hats similar to Triple play, with autonomous hats having a ring of reflective tape on the bottom. I'm basing this off of two things, A.) The last two unusual game piece games (so all since 2007), have been shooting based, First is too smart than to let that cycle continue, B.) The 12 year cycle (I'm only half joking here), Stack attack to Recycle rush, First Frenzy to Stronghold, so Triple play to SteamWorks.

Take that with as many grains of salt as you like.

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In DLC packet number 3, there's a ringtone called "123LiftoffFIRST." If you play it, it sounds like an endgame cue.
I have a few thoughts:
• Flying (doubtful)
• Hanging from a blimp / blimp - like structure
• Lifting a blimp game piece

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Given what we've seen so far and know about FIRST's trends, I'm thinking of a game where the red and blue alliances have to move small black cubes (coal) into a container in order to lift something up, on a balance of sorts. Perhaps that something is another robot.

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Actual flying, yes doubtful, but moving on a zip line for endgame to give the illusion of flight, that could be fun.

Zip lines would be a really fun game, but it sounds a bit dangerous for the robots. Perhaps the robots would have to climb some kind of ladder or pole and get a score based on their height.

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How about a salmon ladder? That's nice and safe!

Perhaps a double salmon ladder, with hooks facing inward, so a robot could climb up very high?

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We had climbing in 2016, so I doubt 2017 is likely to have climbing, at least not straight up. I think there's a chance of similarities to 2010, so maybe a chain of robots hanging from other robots? Or something like the bridges in 2012(weight-driven platforms, anyone?) I thought cubes could be a possibility for game pieces, maybe dice. There are Rubik's cubes of two different sizes in AndyMark's recent video. Maybe dice of varying types/sizes will be used as coal or something else. As for the flying, I'm Rocket Copters have a chance of being game pieces. They have LEDs, and they're inexpensive, but entertaining.

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That would be awesome.

Double awesome! :cool:

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sorry if I missed the memo, but was there a game hint I missed that involved denim or is denim just a fun joke

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Google images for Dean Kamen; that should explain everything.

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Take note that the original denim posts were in 2014 predicting 2017...

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:cool: I think it's a joke, base on the fact that Dean often wears denim.

Wow... I just noticed that! :yikes:

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http://www.firstinspires.org/robotic...hrowing-things

They made a rule where we can't throw paper airplanes into the field.

It's confirmed, paper airplanes are this year's core mechanic

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My guess: Footballs, marked to look like blimps.

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It will be a watergame but bumpers must be denim.

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Just sing... "Denim. Denim. Denim." . ...
https://youtu.be/c0SuIMUoShI

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Just saw this on the website for the Silicon Valley kickoff:

What could the tubes and the small package be?

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Nice scoop! Sent an email to our team to get the braintrust working on it. :)

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No inside knowledge, but I'm guessing FIRST heard the cries about the field from this last year, and is giving teams part of a key field element.

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If this year's KOP is like last year's KOP, those 4 tubes will be aluminum stock: https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.n...rate-items.pdf

Any chance you could link the site?


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My latest thought is a blimp shaped object suspended from a wire. Game pieces are gears and cogs which, when placed, form a mechanism for translating the blimp across the field on the wire. Game pieces that move the blimp faster have higher points value, but are more difficult to place. End game is the blimp reaching the destination first - a red alliance and blue alliance have their own blimp. I look at all the watch pieces in the artwork and think "They've got to mean something". Field has a 19th century feel to it with brick buildings as obstacles. The submarines in the art work represent a hidden danger, perhaps a random obstacle or indicative of active defense allowed during the game.

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Oh, and add a cobblestone playing field surface.

Here ya go: http://www.firstsv.org/?page_id=104

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And, of course, gaslight.

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I can add a bit to this hype mill.

1. Honestly what I think is the coolest STEAM in STEAMWORKS referring to
Science Technology Engineering Art and Math. This year I think first is going to start implementing heaving judging and emphasis on team design and the ARTistic side; Branding, Merch, and Image etc. After champs last year with the Disney rep and Will I AM i'm personally hoping for a design/art related award that gets you to champs. Because we currently have one for every "Section" of a team except for the visual. Chairman's for professional outreach, Comp winning for build, EI for first related outreach, but nothing for design or art.

2. The Game: *Please attach tin foil hats to your skulls we going deep* now firstly if we go back and watch the teaser we see that small dirigible like zeppelin thing. Which could mean two things 1. Footballs, lame or 2. The end game will be something like 2011 where we now have to fly small small "Dirigible like drones" onto platforms as an end game. Furthermore first recently banned the throwing of paper airplanes because possible they could interfere with things in flights. Also the day after the teaser was released first released a video on their twitter, I believe, of a team demonstrating a football launching robot. So as a wrap up, the game will be a football based game with an endgame that has to do with flying a drone from the robot to a platform above the game field.

Or I could be totally wrong and the games going to be a giant water tank full of small pieces of denim that battle bots have to destroy.

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Mini bots on Ziplines for an endgame could be quite fun.

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The Zipline element of the FLL game for 2015 was an absolute nightmare. I'm not sure ho it would hold up at FRC scale though.

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Oh god that thing was awful. You could never get the tension correct.

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I miss the years when game speculation was based on an actual hint released in the form of unintelligible strings of numbers :rolleyes: