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ehochstein

30-12-2014 11:47

New AndyMark Products (Swerve & Steer module?)

I've noticed AndyMark coming out with some new products for the year, they actually just tweeted out a "Swerve & Steer" module.

Here is their new product page.

What do you guys think about the new products for the year? I really like the look of the swerve module, can't wait to see it in use on some robots.

coolhandluke811

30-12-2014 12:42

Re: New AndyMark Products (Swerve & Steer module?)

So I since they announced I guess I can talk about it a little :confused:

I was able to hold one of these recently during a visit to AndyMark recently. I've never worked directly with swerve drive but I've held team's samples and such.

Keeping it short, this is the cleanest, lightest swerve module I've ever held and was kind of blown away by it. It has some nifty built in wiring options for potentiometers that I admired as well.

DiehardCybercard

30-12-2014 13:09

Re: New AndyMark Products (Swerve & Steer module?)

Thanks for posting that Evan, we're excited to see these in action this year. For those interested the product page now has pictures. http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-3009.htm

magnets

30-12-2014 13:11

Re: New AndyMark Products (Swerve & Steer module?)

These are a bit of a game changer....
$1300 buys you 4 swerve modules WITH motors!

Depending on the game, we may just have to buy some of these.

notmattlythgoe

30-12-2014 13:16

Re: New AndyMark Products (Swerve & Steer module?)

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Originally Posted by magnets (Post 1418048)

These are a bit of a game changer....
$1300 buys you 4 swerve modules WITH motors!

Depending on the game, we may just have to buy some of these.

Am I seeing right that it also includes an encoder(not the absolute)?

ehochstein

30-12-2014 13:20

Re: New AndyMark Products (Swerve & Steer module?)

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Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1418050)

Am I seeing right that it also includes an encoder(not the absolute)?

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyMark

The PG71 has an encoder on the back side of the 775 motor, which can help keep track of the steering location.

I believe so!

AdamHeard

30-12-2014 13:25

Re: New AndyMark Products (Swerve & Steer module?)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiifi (Post 1418051)

I believe so!

A sensor on the back of the 775 with that much reduction after is going to be pretty sloppy imo.

The long cantilever on the bevel pinion worries me too.

notmattlythgoe

30-12-2014 13:26

Re: New AndyMark Products (Swerve & Steer module?)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1418054)

A sensor on the back of the 775 with that much reduction after is going to be pretty sloppy imo.

The long cantilever on the bevel pinion worries me too.

Aren't you getting more precise control by reducing after the encoder instead of before?

Andrew Schreiber

30-12-2014 13:28

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Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1418055)

Aren't you getting more precise control by reducing after the encoder instead of before?

Play in gears adds up.

Jared

30-12-2014 13:31

Re: New AndyMark Products (Swerve & Steer module?)

These modules look really awesome. One question: what bearings are you guys using for the rotation, and what holds the robot's weight. I can't quite tell from the picture what's going on.

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Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1418055)

Aren't you getting more precise control by reducing after the encoder instead of before?

You care about the module's angular displacement, not the motor shaft's. There's some backlash in the planetary gearbox and the second gear reduction, so you may be able to rotate the motor a little bit without having the swerve module rotate. In the end, I'd imagine that this doesn't cause too much error.

notmattlythgoe

30-12-2014 13:31

Re: New AndyMark Products (Swerve & Steer module?)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared (Post 1418057)

These modules look really awesome. One question: what bearings are you guys using for the rotation, and what holds the robot's weight. I can't quite tell from the picture what's going on.

You care about the module's angular displacement, not the motor shaft's. There's some backlash in the planetary gearbox and the second gear reduction, so you may be able to rotate the motor a little bit without having the swerve module rotate. In the end, I'd imagine that this doesn't cause too much error.

Thanks, the more you know.

Danny Blau

30-12-2014 14:06

Re: New AndyMark Products (Swerve & Steer module?)

Hi CD
There is an encoder on the back of the 775 motor and there is also a mount for an absolute encoder on the main mount plate.

The robot's weight is carried by a bronze thrust washer, the lateral loads are carried by a large OD roller bearing.

Thanks
Danny

Chris Fultz

30-12-2014 14:24

Re: New AndyMark Products (Swerve & Steer module?)

these look pretty sweet.

do you know when they will be available?

nathannfm

30-12-2014 15:08

Re: New AndyMark Products (Swerve & Steer module?)

Wow, $325 for literally everything needed is a game changer. Do you have a weight? It looks pretty light.

Also, will individual components like the encoder or the U the wheel is housed in be available for sale individually?

Danny Blau

30-12-2014 15:21

Re: New AndyMark Products (Swerve & Steer module?)

The total weight of 1 modules is 8.218lbs

We are planning a having the individual parts available, stay tuned to the newsletter and website for more info about those.

Thanks
Danny

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