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notmattlythgoe 02-01-2015 13:02

pic: 2014 Offseason Drivetrain 2363 Triple Helix
 

notmattlythgoe 02-01-2015 13:18

Re: pic: 2014 Offseason Drivetrain 2363 Triple Helix
 
The CAD files can be found here.

AdamHeard 02-01-2015 13:21

Re: pic: 2014 Offseason Drivetrain 2363 Triple Helix
 
I actually really like this. All the benefits of a 6wd, but it can switch to a powered 2+2 if needed.

The actuation can be really cleaned up if you switch to a pancake cylinder and just push the module down (there is some sliding contact). 3928 did this on their 2013 butterfly, and we ripped it off for our version.

Then just use some spring force to pull it up.

notmattlythgoe 02-01-2015 13:27

Re: pic: 2014 Offseason Drivetrain 2363 Triple Helix
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1419122)
I actually really like this. All the benefits of a 6wd, but it can switch to a powered 2+2 if needed.

The actuation can be really cleaned up if you switch to a pancake cylinder and just push the module down (there is some sliding contact). 3928 did this on their 2013 butterfly, and we ripped it off for our version.

Then just use some spring force to pull it up.

I'd also like to give it a butterfly drive try and put the omnis on both sides. Then you have the ability to drop either side, or both.

Do you have pictures of the method with the pancake cylinders you are talking about?

I can't take credit for this either, one of our other members cadded this up.

AdamHeard 02-01-2015 13:58

Re: pic: 2014 Offseason Drivetrain 2363 Triple Helix
 
http://www.teamneutrino.org/seasons/...bot/butterfly/

Cylinder just pushes straight down on the top standoff.

More pics on the site if you browse.

Electronica1 02-01-2015 14:26

Re: pic: 2014 Offseason Drivetrain 2363 Triple Helix
 
Looks pretty cool. What is the approximate weight of the what is pictured?

Also, couldn't you just replace the set of wheels opposite of the drop down wheels (aka, the back wheels) with omni wheels and have a butterfly drive pretty easily from what you have?

notmattlythgoe 02-01-2015 14:36

Re: pic: 2014 Offseason Drivetrain 2363 Triple Helix
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electronica1 (Post 1419153)
Looks pretty cool. What is the approximate weight of the what is pictured?

Also, couldn't you just replace the set of wheels opposite of the drop down wheels (aka, the back wheels) with omni wheels and have a butterfly drive pretty easily from what you have?

As long as the robot was always sitting on the two sets of colson wheels yes, but in a pushing match you could get rocked back onto the omnis and lose some of your traction.

Chris is me 02-01-2015 18:12

Re: pic: 2014 Offseason Drivetrain 2363 Triple Helix
 
Here's a thought - what's stopping you from having the omni wheel module straddle the drive tube? You could use some delrin blocks to transmit forces applied to the module through the whole frame, which keeps the loads more manageable. As long as you have clearance for the shaft to pivot within your drive tube (doable with chain-in-tube and the right geometry) you might like a setup like that better.


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