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porterma64 04-01-2015 10:56

Re: The 2015 game is... Recycle Rush!
 
Did someone notice the bananas on the field drawings?

orangemoore 04-01-2015 10:57

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Originally Posted by Nathan Rossi (Post 1420915)
Follow the manual, and you'll find the part number "FG263200GRAY"

I bet they tried but may have found the shipping of those containers to be a problem.

tindleroot 04-01-2015 11:50

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Originally Posted by JPBalogh (Post 1420907)
I'm not sure if this is already clarified. But can we load the pool noodles before we stack the bin on the totes?? Also can a robot bring a bin to the human player to have the human player load it through the wall and then stack it?
Thanks,

1. The order in which anything happens does not matter, since the points are scored at the end of the match. It will be much easier to score litter on a grounded bin rather than putting it on top of a stacked bin.

2. Yes, the human player can load the litter into the bin that a robot is holding.

Loncharich 04-01-2015 11:58

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Why are the game pieces getting so big? Where are we supposed to keep the recycle bins and totes in the pits?

artdutra04 04-01-2015 12:21

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I really like this game for a few reasons.

1. No bumpers + elimination of most robot size constraints. We're going to see some really interesting and unique robots this year, the likes of which hasn't been a part of FRC in over a decade. If people thought that most robots in 2014 looked the same, this will be the year of massively different (and potentially just massive) robots.

2. Little direct interaction between the two alliances. For a stacking game, this is a must. Anyone with memories of 2003 remembers what a stacking game without protected stacking areas was like.



Last year was a very defense heavy game, so it's refreshing to have a very offense heavy game.

This also means that generally most of the "rules of thumb" of FRC can be thrown out the window and you can use a blank slate this build season (or at least re-evaluate every thing). Generally most years, you design and build a drivetrain and chassis, then put the robot on top of that. This year you can design your mechanisms, then stick your drivetrain around it.

3. Relaxation of more robot rules. Unlimited Mini CIMs? Yes!

4. Hugely varied game elements and objectives. Coupled with #1, this will lead to a huge diversity in robot designs, along with specialization of strategies. The lack of defense also means that most teams who build robots that work in their shop should also work on the field; in most other years robots struggle with even the slightest bit of defense.

cgmv123 04-01-2015 12:25

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Originally Posted by artdutra04 (Post 1420990)
Unlimited Mini CIMs? Yes!

Did VexPRO lobby for that rule? :D

orangemoore 04-01-2015 12:42

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Originally Posted by cgmv123 (Post 1420994)
Did VexPRO lobby for that rule? :D

I think the community including Vex wanted more mini-cims.:ahh:

GaryVoshol 04-01-2015 12:51

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Originally Posted by Harveythellama (Post 1420493)
Is there a rule against how many totes a human player can bring to the human player station? I didn't see one but I could be mistaken.

I didn't see any rules limiting the number of game pieces a HP can touch. Nor did I see any rule about two HP's touching the same game piece. But I've just read the rules so far, I haven't studied them.

Briansmithtown 05-01-2015 09:06

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The rules seemed kinda rushed this year.

orangemoore 05-01-2015 09:16

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Originally Posted by Briansmithtown (Post 1421834)
The rules seemed kinda rushed this year.

What makes you say that? To me I think they put a lot of time into the rules and making sure they made sense (other than the noodles)

KevinG 05-01-2015 10:53

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I think the major source of entertainment for the audience is going to be watching robots get demolished by falling boxes. A solid plastic eight pound box falling from a 5' height is not friendly towards unprotected electronics.

SoulianPride 05-01-2015 12:22

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Originally Posted by Briansmithtown (Post 1421834)
The rules seemed kinda rushed this year.

Is that a pun I see there?

I think the game with be very interesting and I can't say I don't like the idea of removing win/loss records from the competition to even out the field a bit. There are quite a few ways (and that's just the ones discussed among my team) to go about the game and I'll be interested to see what everyone come up with this year.

ThePremium6 05-01-2015 13:23

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Well, when they said that change was coming, they weren't kidding. the new rules on scoring are sort of confusing but at least we don't have to worry about an outrageous amount of defense now :)

nxtmonkeys 05-01-2015 13:50

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Originally Posted by porterma64 (Post 1420922)
Did someone notice the bananas on the field drawings?

I looked ::rtm:: and didn't see them. Screenshot it so I can see, please.

Ether 06-01-2015 14:00

Re: The 2015 game is... Recycle Rush!
 
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Originally Posted by Briansmithtown (Post 1421834)
The rules seemed kinda rushed this year.

Is that good or bad? Or more precisely, what do you mean by "rushed" in this context?



XadexSquared 06-01-2015 18:23

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I'm also a senior this year and I completely agree with the not a throwing game idea. It was old for this year;s seniors who have had nothing but throwing things into things games.

Briansmithtown 07-01-2015 20:26

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Originally Posted by XadexSquared (Post 1423116)
I'm also a senior this year and I completely agree with the not a throwing game idea. It was old for this year;s seniors who have had nothing but throwing things into things games.

I think this video is pretty much going to sum up this years game... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLwXF-eJ0Y8


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