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ArthurA 03-01-2015 15:01

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I think people are being unfairly critical. I think having a robot being able to pick up crates and stack them autonomously is way cooler than just shooting a ball or firing a frisbee.

MasterEric 03-01-2015 15:15

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Originally Posted by ArthurA (Post 1419883)
I think people are being unfairly critical. I think having a robot being able to pick up crates and stack them autonomously is way cooler than just shooting a ball or firing a frisbee.

But not as fun to watch.

I don't disagree, I can't wait to work on autonomous stacking that requires cooperation with other teams, but it won't be as fun to watch as the robots zip around the field to shoot discs.

excel2474 03-01-2015 15:18

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Originally Posted by James1902 (Post 1419665)
That's not to say that the design challenge isn't interesting or that the robots will be any less cool, but in my experience a basketball game is way more fun to watch than two people shooting free throws on opposite sides of the court.


Then you must not have liked 2012 where all we did was essentially shot free throws on the other side of the court. The alliance that shot more free throws won.

The Doctor 03-01-2015 15:21

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Many of the people on /r/frc are very unhappy with the lack of competition and the boring tasks. (including myself)

Morgeno 03-01-2015 15:23

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Originally Posted by excel2474 (Post 1419896)
Then you must not have liked 2012 where all we did was essentially shot free throws on the other side of the court. The alliance that shot more free throws won.

At least in 2012 you could interact with the other people. You could scoot over to their side and try to keep them from shooting, steal their balls and shoot them to your side, generally interfere. Now there is literally NO CHANCE for robot to robot contact. Sure there are coopetition points, but that's nothing radically exciting

excel2474 03-01-2015 15:26

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Originally Posted by Morgeno (Post 1419902)
At least in 2012 you could interact with the other people. You could scoot over to their side and try to keep them from shooting, steal their balls and shoot them to your side, generally interfere. Now there is literally NO CHANCE for robot to robot contact. Sure there are coopetition points, but that's nothing radically exciting

Yes, that is true. I completely understand people's disappointment in the lack of opponent interaction, but other than that, the competition is the same as previous years. The only thing that is really different is that you will be less likely to be carried by your alliance, and I think that's a good thing.

Bmarshall645 03-01-2015 15:35

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Anyone got a link to the official game logo?

catholicrobot 03-01-2015 15:49

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Originally Posted by silas13579 (Post 1419649)
Does anyone else think this game is going to be boring? Watching it is not going to be fun at all. I for one heartily dislike this game.

yeah, i was really sad to not be driving this season since i had graduated but now im kinda glad because all of the defense and robot to robot interaction is what made driving so fun

xman206 03-01-2015 15:51

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This "game" is very interesting...but is it really a game?

blackbrandt 03-01-2015 16:15

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Originally Posted by Andromeda One (Post 1419917)
Anyone got a link to the official game logo?

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...9IRl8UNl MzaQ

JosephC 03-01-2015 16:27

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I've generally been pretty happy to show the FRC games to my non-robotics friends. I even convinced about 15 of them to come to competitions the past 2 years. Several of them were so pumped in fact, that they watched the live stream today just to see what the new game was! To my dismay, all but one of the people who watched, said they would not be coming to competitions this year.

Robot on Robot interactions are a HUGE part in the success of spreading the message of FIRST. People watch Nascar for the crashes, they watch Hockey for the fights, they watch football to watch people get taken out. Its how these sports draw people in, and once you're in, you're stuck. Over the years, you develop favorite teams, and your wanting to watch just for the action, turns into wanting to watch for the gameplay.

FIRST is just starting the the past few years to get huge. Team growth has skyrocketed, viewership has skyrocketed, FRC is being broadcasted on live TV, even ESPN! Now is the time when people want action, we need to suck them in. And keep them.

This game achieves none of that, it takes the hardcore robot hitting other robot action away, and turns it into a science show. There's a reason that tackle football is far more popular than flag football.

And that, is why I don't like this game.

Harveythellama 03-01-2015 16:39

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Hey guys just wanted to point something out, correct me if I'm wrong but some of the totes more towards the very center of the field are actually upside down.

cmrnpizzo14 03-01-2015 16:46

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Originally Posted by Harveythellama (Post 1420006)
Hey guys just wanted to point something out, correct me if I'm wrong but some of the totes more towards the very center of the field are actually upside down.

That is correct. Looking at the field drawings in the manual I believe that there is a layer of totes on either side of the center step that are placed upside down.

RoboMo786 03-01-2015 16:47

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My initial impression



Jokes aside, I'm excited for this year, and I think it's going to give a lot of teams a great challenge and opportunity. However, I don't think it's going to be very exciting for the audience to watch considering that there is no robot to robot interaction between alliances. I have other doubts, time will tell. It's still a new season, new game, and new challenge, so that is something to be happy about.

RoboMo786 03-01-2015 16:52

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Originally Posted by Andromeda One (Post 1419917)
Anyone got a link to the official game logo?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...28406996_o.jpg

Found this one on the FIRST Facebook page.


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