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Ether 03-01-2015 20:36
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RockerRobot (Post 1420147)
You can't move the gray totes in Auton, only the yellow totes and trash cans
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...90#post1419690

MrTechCenter 03-01-2015 20:45
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jajabinx124 (Post 1420279)
Nothing in the rule book says you can't move gray totes in Auto, you can if you want to get started on stacking earlier(Correct me if I am wrong). I don't see a point in moving grey totes in auto, but you have the freedom to get started on stacking/placing early if you want to. The gray totes,if moved in auto and placed onto scoring zone in auto, will not be scored in Auto and if you do get them on the scoring zone in auto they will be scored in Teleop.
Well if you clear the grey totes in auto while one or both of your other alliance partners score in auton you can clear the path for your alliance to take the green bins from the center at the start of teleop.

jajabinx124 03-01-2015 20:48
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrTechCenter (Post 1420322)
Well if you clear the grey totes in auto while one or both of your other alliance partners score in auton you can clear the path for your alliance to take the green bins from the center at the start of teleop.
Now that is a good strategy. Thus exposing you to more Recycling containers. That could be manageable in 15 seconds.

MrTechCenter 03-01-2015 20:49
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jajabinx124 (Post 1420326)
Now that is a good strategy. Thus exposing you to more Recycling containers. That could be manageable in 15 seconds.
And depending on your bot design, you might even be able to make it back to the auto zone for the 4 point bonus.

Zaque 03-01-2015 21:08
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by normaldude8825 (Post 1419769)
I wish to confirm I am interpreting the following rule correctly:
LITTER Scored in/on RECYCLING CONTAINER 6 per RECYCLING CONTAINER

I am understanding that we are allowed to have various Recycling Containers one next to another and have one piece of Litter lying on top of these Recycling Containers instead of inserting one Litter per Recycling Container.
The rule says the litter must be "fully supported" by a scored recycling container. If the litter is on more than one recycling container, it is not fully supported by any one container, and thus not worth any points.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 1419777)
You may score the litter on, not in the recycling container. The weight of the litter must be supported by a scored container.
It sounds to me like you are trying to say that a litter in a recycling container is not fully supported by the container, and thus not scored. If this is what you meant to say, could you please point out that rule? If that is not what you meant, could you please clarify?

dipmeinaluminum 03-01-2015 21:44
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by p00rleno (Post 1420044)
Quick little scoring mockup for anybody to use in their brainstorming sessions, correct as far as my understanding of the rules goes (Feel free to correct me if it's wrong)
YOU'RE AWESOME!!!

Squillo 03-01-2015 21:45
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring
 
If your robot is in the auto zone and is holding a yellow tote, such that the tote is within the boundaries of the auto zone (extended vertically) but not touching the carpet (supported by the robot) at the end of autonomous, does the tote count toward a tote set ( if two other totes are in the auto zone, do you get 6 points)?

Christopher149 03-01-2015 21:49
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squillo (Post 1420406)
If your robot is in the auto zone and is holding a yellow tote, such that the tote is within the boundaries of the auto zone (extended vertically) but not touching the carpet (supported by the robot) at the end of autonomous, does the tote count toward a tote set ( if two other totes are in the auto zone, do you get 6 points)?
I want to say yes. The definition of STACKED TOTE SET requires it be touching the ground and not a robot. A TOTE SET is where "all three (3) Yellow TOTES from an ALLIANCE are fully contained by the AUTO ZONE, but do not meet the requirements of a STACKED TOTE SET, at the end of AUTO" (emphasis mine).

who716 03-01-2015 21:53
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring
 
now has anyone thought of this don't even worry about the three cans and three totes in the staging zone instead grab all 4 (or at least 2) cans in the middle of the field bring them into the auto zone in autonomous this give you the auto can point of 8 and gets you all the recycling bins on your side of the field for your use.

very plausible as well knowing you can extend infinetly outwards, In more then one direction making grabbing 2 cans at a time possible. and because you can start right up against the land fill zone

Boe 03-01-2015 21:54
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring
 
So I've seen a few opinions on this, are you only allowed to score one container set in auto or can you grab three from the middle theoretically score two container sets?

who716 03-01-2015 22:00
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boe (Post 1420430)
So I've seen a few opinions on this, are you only allowed to score one container set in auto or can you grab three from the middle theoretically score two container sets?
A CONTAINER SET exists if any three (3) RECYCLING CONTAINERS are fully contained by the AUTO ZONE at the end of AUTO.

gray area to me but i would say no you can't seems like only one container set can be scored but with any containers on the field

CalTran 03-01-2015 22:13
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring
 
Can someone please check my math? By my calculations: (WITHOUT "TNA")
Quote:
Starting material:
GT=Grey Tote YT=Yellow Tote RC=Recycling Container L=Litter
12 GT on Step
28 GT Landfill
30 GT Alliance Station
3 YT Staging Zone
4 RC on Step
3 RC Staging Zone
10 L Alliance Station

Or total sum:
70 Grey Totes
7 Recycling Containers
10 Litter
3 Yellow Totes
A max Teleop Score would be achieved by the following:
294 points from 7 "Full Stacks" (7 RC + 42 GT + 6 L)
...A full stack being 42 points from 1 RC + 6 GT + 1 L per stack
56 points from 28 GT left over
12 points from 3 L on the other side
362 points always (and 402 during qualifications from 40 co-op points)

clinton 03-01-2015 22:48
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring
 
Can you move the recycle bin to the human player station and insert the noodle that way?

Tim Sharp 03-01-2015 22:52
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring
 
I was thinking the same thing. I haven't seen any rules against it.

who716 03-01-2015 22:56
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring
 
perfectly legal and most likely will be the common thing to do


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