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Electronica1 03-01-2015 13:56

RIP in Peace Dozer
 
2003 - 2015
Beloved game animation and treasured friend to the FIRST community.
Born in a stacking game, died in a stacking game.
Rest in peace, little guy.

MasterEric 03-01-2015 13:58

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
RIP in pepperonis.

steinra 03-01-2015 13:59

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
He was missed this year!!!

Connerd 03-01-2015 14:07

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
First thought at Kickoff: Where's the bulldozer?

Calvin Hartley 03-01-2015 14:11

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
This little guy was one of my biggest concerns during the animation. You're missed, Plowie. FIRST isn't the same without ya.

Wetzel 03-01-2015 14:11

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
I think he has retired to Key West.

JV2073 03-01-2015 14:13

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
RIP dozer!:(

SoSavyyy 03-01-2015 14:18

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Roses are red,
dozers are blue.
RIP buddy
we'll miss you.

Dominick Ferone 03-01-2015 14:27

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
One year where dozer had the best advantage he was retired.

MasterEric 03-01-2015 14:35

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
From Reddit:

Quote:

Dave Lavery, our head mentor, apparently usually does the game animations. He has been trying to get out of it for a while now, and I'm assuming the lack of his signature robots mean he didn't do it this year. I haven't actually heard from him about it, so I'm not positive.

XaulZan11 03-01-2015 14:38

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominick Ferone (Post 1419853)
One year where dozer had the best advantage he was retired.

Dozer's value takes a big hit when you look at where the totes are to start the match. Other than the auto totes, there aren't any good opportunities to get behind a tote to push it into scoring position.

The inability to play robot to robot defense also significantly hurts its value.

JayNico 03-01-2015 14:46

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He was a real hero. He was a true...patriot.

@_o7

Tim Sharp 03-01-2015 15:00

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
It looks like he could be useful in cleaning up "litter" thrown by other teams.

hexane 03-01-2015 15:48

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Rest in peace in peace? :P

nightpool 03-01-2015 15:54

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hexane (Post 1419927)
Rest in peace in peace? :P

little known fact: RIP actually stands for "RIP In Peace" (Which in turn stands for "RIP In Peace In Peace")

This is just the first iteration of the recursive acronym.

AutodeskGeek 03-01-2015 16:06

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
I made the classic "Oh-oh" noise when this year's robot crumbled in the animation.
Didn't someone build him in real life?

Schnabel 03-01-2015 16:30

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
I don't like the realisticness of the animation. I'm can deal with Dave not wanting to do it anymore, I can survive without the iconic dozer bot or bubbler bot, but I don't think an animation to describe the game should be so realistic. I enjoyed suspending belief when looking at the crazy impossible robots that helped show games in the past.

Justin Montois 03-01-2015 17:31

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
The quintessential unsung FIRST hero.

RIP.

Flimsor 03-01-2015 17:36

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schnabel (Post 1419993)
I don't like the realisticness of the animation. I'm can deal with Dave not wanting to do it anymore, I can survive without the iconic dozer bot or bubbler bot, but I don't think an animation to describe the game should be so realistic. I enjoyed suspending belief when looking at the crazy impossible robots that helped show games in the past.

Part of the nice thing about those ridiculous robots is that they showed practically impossible ways to play the game (aside from maybe dozer), eliminating idea suggestions. I'n not remotely against helping teams, but I think it presented slightly more of a challenge that there were no realistic suggestions as to how to actually do anything on the field.

Richard Wallace 03-01-2015 19:04

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AutodeskGeek (Post 1419967)
I made the classic "Oh-oh" noise when this year's robot crumbled in the animation.
Didn't someone build him in real life?

It was 3572.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-UB_r2Bqo

techhelpbb 03-01-2015 19:13

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Unfortunately the rules prohibited Plowie's greatest potential in this game.
Pushing all the crates into one side of the field so nothing can move over there.

I have this picture of a field of crates and robots that can't escape :eek:

Maybe he's just dozing somewhere?

Libby K 03-01-2015 19:22

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Oh, Dozer. I will always love you. Miss ya, buddy.

Lil' Lavery 03-01-2015 19:29

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO5y2O_hv3I

James1902 04-01-2015 17:44

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
In Memoriam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRBK...ature=youtu.be

TimTheGreat 04-01-2015 18:08

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
RIP in peace? Someone has RAS Syndrome

Mineboy2300 04-01-2015 19:07

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
there was another robot that had a similar purpose to dozers, but it was on the red alliance and had no plow.

g_sawchuk 04-01-2015 19:12

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
I honestly strongly disliked the animation this year. I liked the old style so much more. RIP Dozer. Yes folks. It's Dozer. Not Plowie.

markmcgary 04-01-2015 19:15

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by techhelpbb (Post 1420179)
Unfortunately the rules prohibited Plowie's greatest potential in this game.
Pushing all the crates into one side of the field so nothing can move over there.

I have this picture of a field of crates and robots that can't escape :eek:

Maybe he's just dozing somewhere?

I see what you did there. :)

Lance5136 04-01-2015 19:41

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
I recall Dean saying that he was recycled. . .

Dinoyan 04-01-2015 20:56

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
RIP dozer :(

AdamHeard 04-01-2015 20:57

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrifBot (Post 1421353)
I honestly strongly disliked the animation this year. I liked the old style so much more. RIP Dozer. Yes folks. It's Dozer. Not Plowie.

Agreed. Old FAR better.

orangemoore 04-01-2015 21:05

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
If anyone noticed the robots also had the old control systems as the electrical system. If they make the robots more realistic why not include the new control system.:D

Munchskull 04-01-2015 21:47

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
We all need to wear RIP Dozer buttons to competition.

magnets 04-01-2015 21:59

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
We need Dave's animations back!!!

This new animation looks, to be honest, quite low quality. It was also super confusing. I've never appreciated the old animation style for its clarity until it disappeared :(

Electronica1 04-01-2015 22:41

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Munchskull (Post 1421539)
We all need to wear RIP Dozer buttons to competition.

My first thought was to connect these to our robot in memory of him. Others are welcome to do the same in an attempt to bring him back ;)

tStano 04-01-2015 23:40

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by magnets (Post 1421565)
We need Dave's animations back!!!

This new animation looks, to be honest, quite low quality. It was also super confusing. I've never appreciated the old animation style for its clarity until it disappeared :(

You're right, I just missed Dozer and the other whimsical robots because they were cute, familiar, and made me feel warm and fuzzy inside, but this animation was definitely more confusing. However, that might also be a function of the game being more confusing with all the scoring options, and things to do.

wilsonmw04 04-01-2015 23:58

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electronica1 (Post 1421615)
My first thought was to connect these to our robot in memory of him. Others are welcome to do the same in an attempt to bring him back ;)

this is going to happen. Dozer will live on!

Mike Marandola 05-01-2015 05:28

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by magnets (Post 1421565)
We need Dave's animations back!!!

This new animation looks, to be honest, quite low quality. It was also super confusing. I've never appreciated the old animation style for its clarity until it disappeared :(

I miss Dave's doughy people.


philso 05-01-2015 09:01

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Marandola (Post 1421793)
I miss Dave's doughy people.


When the drivers first appeared in the game animation this year, I initially thought they were large Lego Mini-Figs :D

The_ShamWOW88 05-01-2015 09:08

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
You will be missed Dozer....

dellagd 05-01-2015 09:50

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Marandola (Post 1421793)
I miss Dave's doughy people.

Yeah, I was sad when I saw the animation wasn't done the same as it has been for a long time. I was quite fond of those animations, and Dave, if appreciation was at all lacking for those animations, here you go! They will be missed along with the beloved Dozer!

hrench 05-01-2015 12:14

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
I do hope he comes back next year. But he'd be perfect for totes--he pushes and has no bumpers!

StAxis 05-01-2015 12:24

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Even if Dave doesn't want to do it any more, I feel the models and style should be passed on to an apprentice. It simply doesn't feel like FRC without that animation.

Joe Ross 05-01-2015 12:30

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Calvin Hartley (Post 1419834)
This little guy was one of my biggest concerns during the animation. You're missed, Plowie. FIRST isn't the same without ya.

Quote:

Originally Posted by techhelpbb (Post 1420179)
Unfortunately the rules prohibited Plowie's greatest potential in this game.
Pushing all the crates into one side of the field so nothing can move over there.

I have this picture of a field of crates and robots that can't escape :eek:

Maybe he's just dozing somewhere?

I think the disappearance of Dozer is related to the fact that people refuse to call him by his real name.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlavery (Post 1419104)
However, regarding the above comment, we must be clear. Dozer's name is "Dozer." It always has been. It is not, and never has been "Plowie." Plowie is his younger second cousin, who just happens to be a Tonka road-grader. Dozer gets quite offended when he is confused with Plowie. He then goes off and sulks in the corner for the entire afternoon, and it takes an enormous amount of coaxing to get him to settle down and play nicely with the other construction equipment. So please, for the sake of small blue bulldozers everywhere, let's put an end to this Dozer/Plowie confusion, and just use his proper name.

-dave


AdamHeard 05-01-2015 12:35

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Ross (Post 1421975)
I think the disappearance of Dozer is related to the fact that people refuse to call him by his real name.

It's probably more related to the animation not being done by Dave Lavery.

Joe Troy 05-01-2015 14:43

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
The FRC game animation will never be the same without Dozer and his crew.

Dave Lavery's style and creativity will always be the standard by which future game animations will be judged.

LONG LIVE DOZER!



Schnabel 05-01-2015 15:44

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1421977)
It's probably more related to the animation not being done by Dave Lavery.

Check who said the quote under him.

Calvin Hartley 06-01-2015 04:37

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Ross (Post 1421975)
I think the disappearance of Dozer is related to the fact that people refuse to call him by his real name.

I actually tend to use them interchangably, since I see both used commonly.

Libby K 06-01-2015 08:25

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Calvin Hartley (Post 1422564)
I actually tend to use them interchangably, since I see both used commonly.

Which would be incorrect. As stated by Dozer's creator: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...04&postcount=7

Taylor 06-01-2015 08:30

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
There's this fella named LeBron. Sometimes people call him Kobe. Both names refer to professional basketball players, so they're interchangeable, right?

Calvin Hartley 06-01-2015 13:44

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Libby K (Post 1422594)
Which would be incorrect. As stated by Dozer's creator: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...04&postcount=7

Ooh, thanks! This is what I get for working full time instead of reading CD full time. Haha.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 1422597)
There's this fella named LeBron. Sometimes people call him Kobe. Both names refer to professional basketball players, so they're interchangeable, right?

I wouldnt know, since I don't pay much attention to sports. I'm gonna assume you are referring to different people and answer no, they are not interchangeable. Point taken.

cglrcng 06-01-2015 16:28

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
In full respect of Dave Lavery's very missed animation creation, and after careful consideration and much feeling of embarrasement, and now fully corrected on Dozer's proper "namen-clature", & after having previously posted in another thread here recently. "The 2015 FRC Dream" of the 10 Tethered "Plowies" (all Grey Tote pusher bots and Litter Collectors & movers), all exiting from their main bot on the field in the Landfill Zone & all stored in their Lexan Mini "Plowie" Display case off the field).....I will now go find the thread & post, and ammend and change all "Mini-Plowies" listed, to the proper name of "Mini-Dozer's", wherever it be found.

"Dozer" will not be missed in the 2015 FRC Edition of "Recycle RUSH", as there will be an actual army of "Mini-Dozer's"...Dozer's many children, so to speak.

(Though, how that all happened biologically without a proper robo mate,....I will of course, leave that explanation to some of your High School Biology Teachers' to even begin, to attempt to explain later).

That army of 10 Mini Dozer's will be feeding, feeding, feeding, and feeding more, our very trusted & merciless fellow Alliance Stackers from all directions possible.

Long Live DLavery's Dozer!:yikes:

Jarren Harkema 06-01-2015 16:45

Re: RIP in Peace Dozer
 
As a FIRSTer, I always enjoyed the old game animations. But ever try to show it to someone who isn't part of FIRST? I tried last year and people thought it strange and stupid, and I had to explain that the robots look impractical to not give away any ideas. This years game animation, being much more realistic, was treated much better by the muggles. In the end the animation isn't supposed to be for us, the manual is.

With all that said, I will always have a special place in my heart for Dozer. *sniff*


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