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I don't like this. I hope the GDC fixes the scoring rules in a way that removes any incentive for both teams to leave litter on their sides.
Any rule change needs to modify the game in a way that doesn't force referees to judge whether there was intent to make a noodle agreement vs teams accidentally leaving litter in a particular place. That would be even worse. |
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Having unprocessed litter points count against you would mean there wouldn't be much incentive for the other alliance to try and throw litter to your side. Getting 4 points benefits them directly, removing 4 from you helps them very little. I believe this is why litter counts positive in the first place.
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I just had this thought to TNA. This agreement could be blown out of the water if FRC simply adjusted the rules and had blue colored noodles for the blue alliance and red colored noodles for the red alliance. And the objective would be to have the blue alliances noodles land in the red alliance area and vice versa to score points.
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This idea was brought up in my meeting. Could work... assuming you have trust in the other alliance
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In my mind, if a coach stares me in the eye, agrees to this, and shakes my hand, that's really the end of it. I'll trust him/her to make this happen and alert me if their alliance changes their mind. However, renege on this, and you're word means nothing anymore. I may even come onto CD and let everyone know that your team can't be trusted to hold their promises moving forward. I give it one week, maybe two, before teams leverage this option and the rankings end up being a little skewed. However, after the initial adoption period, this'll be a common occurrence, in my mind. - Sunny G. |
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I suppose the entirety of FRC could make a "TNA Blacklist" for teams that have gone back on their promise, but that sounds way too dark and against Gracious Professionalism that I'm not sure if that's a good idea.
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For those who are saying that this doesn't support the concept of recycling:
After 16 years involvement with FLL, where there is always a themed game, I have to say that you can't read an interpretation into the game based on the theme. FLL has never done that. The theme is the theme; the game is the game. For example, one of the tasks this year was to shoot a ball into a net, like soccer. But the ball had to stay in the net; if it bounced back out the mission was not accomplished, unlike soccer where the goal would be scored whether the ball stayed in the net or not. So discuss TNA on its merits alone, not on whether it violates the theme of the game. Because that doesn't matter. |
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I know for a fact that some teams have internal blacklists. And I also know for a fact that this is NOT the first time this sort of discussion has happened, and there WERE teams that broke the agreement (if it was made). |
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Easy fix, color the noodles. Red litter can only be unprocessed on the blue side, blue litter on the red side. Either side's litter can be scored in the landfill though, because if that's all you can manage to do (go for 1 point per noodle), there's no reason to take it away.
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