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JohnFogarty 03-01-2015 21:58

Making sure EVERY Team can do Auto
 
I hope everyone has read this with the same thought in mind I have. It's now even more crucial to your alliance's auto score that you make sure every partner you have can at least at a minimum move into the auto zone. Otherwise you won't get even the minimum robot set points.

Jacob Bendicksen 03-01-2015 21:59

Re: Making sure EVERY Team can do Auto
 
Seems like it wouldn't be a bad idea to have sample LabView, Java, and C++ code on a flash drive that alliance members (and other teams, for that matter) can copy over before a match.

Arhowk 03-01-2015 22:01

Re: Making sure EVERY Team can do Auto
 
Was it any different last year? It might've been even more crucial due to ball placement.

I'd like to see a team do a dynamic stack-based auton, though. I had a great system devised before kickoff that I think would tackle the solution but I won't be working on it.

Christopher149 03-01-2015 22:08

Re: Making sure EVERY Team can do Auto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arhowk (Post 1420446)
Was it any different last year? It might've been even more crucial due to ball placement.

I'd like to see a team do a dynamic stack-based auton, though. I had a great system devised before kickoff that I think would tackle the solution but I won't be working on it.

Last year, you didn't need your partners to get some points. This year, you need them to get any (very nearly, and especially the ROBOT SET).

x86_4819 03-01-2015 22:10

Re: Making sure EVERY Team can do Auto
 
The other option is to have one robot handle all 3 of something. Seems that 3-tote-stacker autos would be pretty valuable this year.

who716 03-01-2015 22:12

Re: Making sure EVERY Team can do Auto
 
if a robot doesn't move you can always place them right next to the alliance zone and push them into it

JohnFogarty 03-01-2015 22:17

Re: Making sure EVERY Team can do Auto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher149 (Post 1420454)
Last year, you didn't need your partners to get some points. This year, you need them to get any (very nearly, and especially the ROBOT SET).

Exactly this.

I'm a fan of the specialization of roles. I want a clarification weather or not you can actually score more than three gray bins in auto.

who716 03-01-2015 22:27

Re: Making sure EVERY Team can do Auto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnFogarty (Post 1420477)
Exactly this.

I'm a fan of the specialization of roles. I want a clarification weather or not you can actually score more than three gray bins in auto.

gray bins can not be scored in auto you can move them around all over creation during auto even stack them but the stack wont count in auto

alopex_rex 03-01-2015 22:28

Re: Making sure EVERY Team can do Auto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnFogarty (Post 1420477)
Exactly this.
I want a clarification weather or not you can actually score more than three gray bins in auto.

You can't score any gray totes in auton. There are only 3 yellow totes, so no way to score more. You can only score 3 recycling containers:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Game Manual Section 3.1.2.1
A CONTAINER SET exists if any three (3) RECYCLING CONTAINERS are fully contained by the AUTO ZONE at the end of AUTO


ENeyman 03-01-2015 22:34

Re: Making sure EVERY Team can do Auto
 
I thought you can score gray totes in auto. What's to prevent you from stacking them?

alopex_rex 03-01-2015 22:36

Re: Making sure EVERY Team can do Auto
 
Clarification: you don't get points in autonomous from gray totes. You're free to do whatever I want with them afaik, but you don't get auton points.

ENeyman 03-01-2015 22:39

Re: Making sure EVERY Team can do Auto
 
Right, the points will be assessed after teleop ends. But you would still get points, right?

Kevin Sevcik 03-01-2015 22:43

Re: Making sure EVERY Team can do Auto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ENeyman (Post 1420509)
Right, the points will be assessed after teleop ends. But you would still get points, right?

Yes, but why are you wasting your time in auton on something that's not going to get you any points anyways?

Elius_Linkus 03-01-2015 22:44

Re: Making sure EVERY Team can do Auto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacob Bendicksen (Post 1420444)
Seems like it wouldn't be a bad idea to have sample LabView, Java, and C++ code on a flash drive that alliance members (and other teams, for that matter) can copy over before a match.

It'd be nice if we could somehow ensure that all our alliance members had something in terms of autonomous, but how likely is it that whatever "sample" you program will be compatible with their robot? It would almost seem better to set autonomous-incapable robots out of the way while you score the bins and totes, or just forcibly move their robot into the auto-zone.

ENeyman 03-01-2015 22:47

Re: Making sure EVERY Team can do Auto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik (Post 1420521)
Yes, but why are you wasting your time in auton on something that's not going to get you any points anyways?

My question is: Does it get you points? No where in the manual can I find that stacks of gray totes made during auton will not be counted.

My thinking is that since auton this year is so dependent on your other two alliance partners, maybe it's more worth it to try to score some gray totes and get your alliance some "for-sure" points.


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