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Zebra_Fact_Man 04-01-2015 01:28

Tote Stack Maximum
 
Is there a maximum to the number of totes you can put in a stack other than your robot's physical limit? The rules explain how the point values increase the higher they go, but don't really cover what happens when your stack exceeds 6'6", i.e. 7+ totes.

Do all totes above five go 6x, do they continue to increase (6x, 7x, 8x...), or can we NOT go above 6? Read everything twice; couldn't find an answer.

Abhishek R 04-01-2015 01:30

Re: Tote Stack Maximum
 
I believe the max is 6.

wilderbuchanan 04-01-2015 01:32

Re: Tote Stack Maximum
 
My team originally thought we could stack unlimited crates:D but after further review it's not allowed

dellagd 04-01-2015 01:35

Re: Tote Stack Maximum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Abhishek R (Post 1420754)
I believe the max is 6.

Correct. The answer lies right in the first line of Tote Gameplay (3.2.1.3)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ye Olde Manual
A Gray TOTE is scored if it is fully supported by a SCORING PLATFORM and no portion of the TOTE extends above the top of the BACKSTOP.

Emphasis mine.

Interestingly enough I don't see BACKSTOP defined even though it is bolded. Regardless, it's clear to see from the figures below that description that a max of 6 TOTES would fulfill that criteria. I did a quick calc and it looks like you're clear by about 6 inches from the top of the BACKSTOP at 6 TOTES.

jaykris284 04-01-2015 01:58

Re: Tote Stack Maximum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zebra_Fact_Man (Post 1420752)
Is there a maximum to the number of totes you can put in a stack other than your robot's physical limit? The rules explain how the point values increase the higher they go, but don't really cover what happens when your stack exceeds 6'6", i.e. 7+ totes.

Do all totes above five go 6x, do they continue to increase (6x, 7x, 8x...), or can we NOT go above 6? Read everything twice; couldn't find an answer.

You could go higher than the 6th level but it wouldn't be scored, so why do it?

ahartnet 04-01-2015 02:04

Re: Tote Stack Maximum
 
The backstop is defined on page 8 of section 2 in the (current) manual. It's the 6'6" aluminum pipe that shows the 6 levels (white gaffers tape). This is also why the maximum is 6 totes.

themccannman 04-01-2015 02:14

Re: Tote Stack Maximum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dellagd (Post 1420759)
Correct. The answer lies right in the first line of Tote Gameplay (3.2.1.3)



Emphasis mine.

Interestingly enough I don't see BACKSTOP defined even though it is bolded. Regardless, it's clear to see from the figures below that description that a max of 6 TOTES would fulfill that criteria. I did a quick calc and it looks like you're clear by about 6 inches from the top of the BACKSTOP at 6 TOTES.

The only real answer in this thread. Thank you for reading the manual and supporting your claim with a citation.

Zebra_Fact_Man 04-01-2015 02:52

Re: Tote Stack Maximum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dellagd (Post 1420759)
Correct. The answer lies right in the first line of Tote Gameplay (3.2.1.3)

Thanks! Somehow I missed that in my read-throughs.

TimTheGreat 04-01-2015 05:11

Re: Tote Stack Maximum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dellagd (Post 1420759)
A Gray TOTE is scored if it is fully supported by a SCORING PLATFORM and no portion of the TOTE extends above the top of the BACKSTOP.

Are they emphasizing tote in a way that says 'The bins can be above the top, not the tote?', or is it bold because it is a keyword?

rich2202 04-01-2015 05:23

Re: Tote Stack Maximum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TimTheGreat (Post 1420818)
'The bins can be above the top, not the tote?'

Yes. In scoring, it is clear that the Container is assumed to be on top of 6 Totes. That requires the Container (and litter) to exceed the height of the backstop.

GaryVoshol 04-01-2015 09:23

Re: Tote Stack Maximum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dellagd (Post 1420759)
Correct. The answer lies right in the first line of Tote Gameplay (3.2.1.3)



Emphasis mine.

Interestingly enough I don't see BACKSTOP defined even though it is bolded. Regardless, it's clear to see from the figures below that description that a max of 6 TOTES would fulfill that criteria. I did a quick calc and it looks like you're clear by about 6 inches from the top of the BACKSTOP at 6 TOTES.

It's defined (as noted above) but not in the Glossary. It might be added there in a team update.

TomBuchler 04-01-2015 11:08

Re: Tote Stack Maximum
 
I do got a question. I don't know if this is relevant. But according to rules, would it be allowable to have the recycling container (trash can) be on two separate stacks of grey totes that are side by side? I am mainly thinking of the case were a container is on it's side (not upright). The container would be more secure on two sets of stacked totes side by side rather than trying to balance it on one set of totes.

EricH 04-01-2015 12:58

Re: Tote Stack Maximum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBuchler (Post 1420930)
I do got a question. I don't know if this is relevant. But according to rules, would it be allowable to have the recycling container (trash can) be on two separate stacks of grey totes that are side by side? I am mainly thinking of the case were a container is on it's side (not upright). The container would be more secure on two sets of stacked totes side by side rather than trying to balance it on one set of totes.

Sure. The container is scored based on the lowest level it's actually in.


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