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cmrnpizzo14 04-01-2015 19:13

Re: Noodle Throwing Strategy
 
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Originally Posted by SkittlesCharge (Post 1420944)
Our team tried multiple methods for throwing the noodle at kickoff. I used a technique where I loosely held the far end of the noodle in my left hand, then pushed the closer end (but with a kind of throwing motion involved too) with two fingers on my right hand. With that, I was able to reliably throw the noodle almost half the length of the field, and sometimes quite a bit farther. Our team's human player from last year tried this method as well, and he was able to throw it a bit farther than me. On one attempt he threw it almost the entire length of the field.

I don't know if that was a very good description of the technique, but I'll try to explain it further if anyone is interested.

One of our students tried this today with quite a bit of success. We didn't have a field setup to try it on but it traveled over half the field according to our measurements.

g_sawchuk 04-01-2015 19:15

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Originally Posted by JustbeingJFK (Post 1421306)
A human player can throw the noodle but by doing that you may risk it landing on your side of the field and losing 4 points.

Would you lose 4 points or would the other team gain 4 points?

Huguebots 04-01-2015 19:19

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Originally Posted by GrifBot (Post 1421359)
Would you lose 4 points or would the other team gain 4 points?

The latter.

tanogirl 04-01-2015 20:25

Re: Noodle Throwing Strategy
 
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Originally Posted by SkittlesCharge (Post 1420944)
Our team tried multiple methods for throwing the noodle at kickoff. I used a technique where I loosely held the far end of the noodle in my left hand, then pushed the closer end (but with a kind of throwing motion involved too) with two fingers on my right hand. With that, I was able to reliably throw the noodle almost half the length of the field, and sometimes quite a bit farther. Our team's human player from last year tried this method as well, and he was able to throw it a bit farther than me. On one attempt he threw it almost the entire length of the field.

I don't know if that was a very good description of the technique, but I'll try to explain it further if anyone is interested.

Do you think you could post a video of it?
I've been trying but couldn't quite figure out the technique.
Thanks

EricH 04-01-2015 20:31

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Originally Posted by tanogirl (Post 1421436)
Do you think you could post a video of it?
I've been trying but couldn't quite figure out the technique.
Thanks

Judging by your user title, you do archery. Imagine, if you will, that you've got an arrow ready to loose. Now, instead of an arrow, you have a pool noodle; instead of a bow in your hand, you're using your bow hand as a rest for the noodle; instead of a bowstring, your free hand is providing the push.

Experiment with that a few times.

We've gotten similar results in our experimentation--some throws short, some long enough, and one or two that are like "Do that again!" due to the length.

tanogirl 04-01-2015 21:09

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1421447)
Judging by your user title, you do archery. Imagine, if you will, that you've got an arrow ready to loose. Now, instead of an arrow, you have a pool noodle; instead of a bow in your hand, you're using your bow hand as a rest for the noodle; instead of a bowstring, your free hand is providing the push.

Experiment with that a few times.

We've gotten similar results in our experimentation--some throws short, some long enough, and one or two that are like "Do that again!" due to the length.

That makes more sense- thanks

Jacob Bendicksen 04-01-2015 21:24

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While it's not difficult to get a fresh KOP noodle 15-20 feet with a few minutes of practice, keep in mind that noodles after Week 1 events will be anything but fresh. They'll be driven over, crushed in intakes, and take all sorts of other abuse, all of which make them not fly straight. Fresh noodles are reasonably rigid, which means that some sort of javelin-ish technique can be used to throw them, but once they start getting weak spots and bends they won't fly nearly as far.

wolfgang42 04-01-2015 23:07

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1421447)
Imagine, if you will, that you've got an arrow ready to loose. Now, instead of an arrow, you have a pool noodle; instead of a bow in your hand, you're using your bow hand as a rest for the noodle; instead of a bowstring, your free hand is providing the push.

Here's a video of someone doing this: http://youtu.be/vyboSYt6J8I

SkittlesCharge 04-01-2015 23:28

Re: Noodle Throwing Strategy
 
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Originally Posted by EricH
Judging by your user title, you do archery. Imagine, if you will, that you've got an arrow ready to loose. Now, instead of an arrow, you have a pool noodle; instead of a bow in your hand, you're using your bow hand as a rest for the noodle; instead of a bowstring, your free hand is providing the push.

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Originally Posted by wolfgang42 (Post 1421635)
Here's a video of someone doing this: http://youtu.be/vyboSYt6J8I

Yep, this is basically what I was talking about. I kept my hand around the noodle a bit longer into the throw, to keep it aimed straight, but the technique is basically the same either way. I think with a bit of practice, a human player could pretty reliably throw the noodles pretty far onto the opposing side, hopefully behind some stacks.

As far as damaged noodles go, I think as long as the noodles weren't permanently bent the technique would still hold up pretty well. Since it achieves its distance by having the noodle travel with very little air resistance, minor damage (cuts, chunks out, etc.) to the sides of the noodle won't affect its flight much. Less-rigid noodles will probably be more of a problem than damaged ones, but mostly during the throw itself, not the flight, a problem which can be helped by remaining loosely holding the noodle as it is thrown. While the distances achieved will certainly be greater with fresh noodles than noodles in actual competition, I still think that human players, with practice, will be able to throw them far enough to make it worthwhile.

alexander.h 05-01-2015 13:55

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Originally Posted by cgmv123 (Post 1420939)
See T21.

What does T21 have to do with all of this?

cgmv123 05-01-2015 14:35

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Originally Posted by alexander.h (Post 1422048)
What does T21 have to do with all of this?

T21 restricts equipment that can be brought into the ALLIANCE STATION. An atlatl would be considered equipment.

alexander.h 05-01-2015 14:38

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Originally Posted by cgmv123 (Post 1422090)
T21 restricts equipment that can be brought into the ALLIANCE STATION. An atlatl would be considered equipment.

Oh. OK, thanks!

nxtmonkeys 05-01-2015 14:41

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But...

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G24 ROBOTS may not cause TOTES, RECYCLING CONTAINERS, and/or LITTER to completely transfer from their side of the FIELD,
or from the STEP, onto the opposite side of the FIELD.
VIOLATION: FOUL. If egregious or strategic, RED CARD and offending ROBOT will be DISABLED.
So, no throwing noodles. UNLESS I am missing something here...

cgmv123 05-01-2015 14:45

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Originally Posted by nxtmonkeys (Post 1422093)
So, no throwing noodles. UNLESS I am missing something here...

A HUMAN PLAYER is not a ROBOT.

alexander.h 05-01-2015 14:46

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Originally Posted by nxtmonkeys (Post 1422093)
But...



So, no throwing noodles. UNLESS I am missing something here...

Yes, there is an UNLESS. There is no rule stopping the Human Player from throwing noodles over the Alliance Wall prior to the last 20 seconds. Let me find the rule number ...


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