Acquiring containers from step during autonomous
 

With a limited number of containers on the field taking control of the containers on the step may be important. One way to ensure control of these containers would be using autonomous mode to grab the containers. However there is a large amount of totes in the landfill making it so the robot would have to extend pretty far to get the containers. What are your thoughts on the importance of controlling the extra containers and on how to go about getting to the containers.

Going off on a tangent, this is one of few parts of the game where there is inter alliance competition as both teams have access to these containers and will have to beat the other alliance to the containers.

Personally I see this as a possibly over looked part of this game.

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I guarantee it's not being overlooked.

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^^^

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A strategy that guarantees the win when max possible points by both alliances are scored will never be overlooked. The GDC made an odd number of recycling cans on the field for a reason.

That said, it's only going to really matter come late playoff rounds at strong competitions. Few alliances will have the firepower to worry about running out of a game piece.

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Isn't 10 even?

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Yep. Three in each staging zone for the alliances, and four on the step. I could have sworn it was three on the step myself though... rules haven't all sunk in ;)

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Yes.

Source

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I was thinking of the most a single alliance can possess, completely forgot the other alliance has 3 when posting that total. :rolleyes:

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The two containers in the middle would not be difficult to reach because there is a gap in the totes in the land fill so you could get to those easily and then wait until the landfill is cleared out to get the other two.

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Unless some teams develop non wheel robots that can stack a tote every 2 seconds from anywhere on the field ,i don't think it will matter that much. I think teams will target stacking the recycling bins and autonomous because both are worth a lot more.

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well knowing there is no starting configuration you could start with your robot fully extended with two arms, grabbing at the containers and have it lined up perfectly so that when auto start you grab them spin drop them in the zone then grab the other two

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Except for that G7-C states "When placed on the FIELD for a MATCH, each ROBOT must be: completely outside of their AUTO ZONE and LANDFILL ZONE."

This would include any arms or appendages that are reaching over into the landfill zone.

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The definition of each zone in the glossary does not include a vertical extension of the boundaries. Wondering if this implies that hanging over the boundary is OK as long as you aren't in contact with the floor or the game designers overlooked it. Maybe this needs some clarification.

Added thought - the zones are referred to as areas and not volumes. That would be another indication to me that the rule refers to contact with the marked area by a part of the robot.

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There is an exact diagram in the manual that shows hanging over the step is completely ok, so long as you are not in contact with the other game pieces or carpet, I believe.

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If you are referencing figure 3-8, in <G18>, that is not related to Auton, but interaction with the step.