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BERTEvan 04-01-2015 21:50
Scoring Question
 
If a container with litter inside of it is placed on the scoring platform without a tote underneath it, what is it worth for points?

Tim Sharp 04-01-2015 21:55
Re: Scoring Question
 
Zero

MrForbes 04-01-2015 21:56
Re: Scoring Question
 
Scored RECYCLING CONTAINER 4 per LEVEL
LITTER Scored in/on a RECYCLING CONTAINER 6 per RECYCLING CONTAINER

so that makes 4 x 0 = 0 points for the CONTAINER

and 6 x 1 = 6 for the LITTER

0 + 6 = 6 points

What did you get? I don't know if I'm right, either.

nathanwalters 04-01-2015 21:57
Re: Scoring Question
 
Per 3.1.2.3:

Quote:
A RECYCLING CONTAINER is scored if it is fully supported by only scored Gray TOTES. Points for a scored RECYCLING CONTAINER are awarded based on the lowest LEVEL in which any portion of the RECYCLING CONTAINER resides.
So a container is only considered scored if it is supported by one or more gray totes. This means that a container not on top of a tote is worth zero points.

Also per 3.1.2.3:

Quote:
When a scored RECYCLING CONTAINER fully supports a LITTER, that LITTER is considered scored in or on that RECYCLING
CONTAINER.
Litter is only considered scored if it is supported by a scored container. Since the container is not scored, the litter is not scored. You still have zero points.

donnie99 04-01-2015 21:57
Re: Scoring Question
 
It is worth no points. Litter in or on a container only counts if the container is scored. A container is scored if it is on top of and only supported by a scored gray tote. A gray tote is scored if it is on top of the scoring platform and is only supported by the scoring platform.

Hope this helps!

Hallry 04-01-2015 21:58
Re: Scoring Question
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrForbes (Post 1421556)
and 6 x 1 = 6 for the LITTER.
However, that LITTER is not placed in or on a scored RECYCLING CONTAINER (emphasis mine), thus it does not earn those 6 points.

Tim Sharp 04-01-2015 21:58
Re: Scoring Question
 
Maybe I spoke too soon. Its worth investigating.

dellagd 04-01-2015 21:58
Re: Scoring Question
 
It's the first sentence under the subsection "RECYCLING CONTAINERS" of 3.1.2.3 "TELEOP":

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ye Olde Manual
A RECYCLING CONTAINER is scored if it is fully supported by only scored Gray TOTES
As far as the litter is concerned, nothing will be scored for it either:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ye Olde Manual
When a scored RECYCLING CONTAINER fully supports a LITTER, that LITTER is considered scored in or on that RECYCLING
CONTAINER
Emphasis mine.

orangemoore 04-01-2015 21:59
Re: Scoring Question
 
None.

Quote:
LITTER
Each LITTER can be scored in one (1) of three (3) ways:
A. in or on a scored RECYCLING CONTAINER,
B. in the Red or Blue LANDFILL ZONE, or
C. as UNPROCESSED LITTER on either the Red or Blue side of the FIELD.
When a scored RECYCLING CONTAINER fully supports a LITTER, that LITTER is considered scored in or on that RECYCLING
CONTAINER, as demonstrated in Figure 3-5 Parts A and B. A maximum of one (1) LITTER will be scored per RECYCLING
CONTAINER.

Squillo 04-01-2015 22:03
Re: Scoring Question
 
If litter is in a recycling container, but the container is not scored (e.g., the container is on the floor and not on any scored tote(s)), is the litter "unprocessed litter"? Or does it simply not count as anything at all?

If a litter is in the grasp of a robot at the "ending bell," is it unprocessed litter? Or simply not scored at all?

Same for litter resting on top of totes (scored or unscored) - not on the floor, but also not in or on a scored container. Unprocessed, or ignored?

blaze8902 04-01-2015 22:10
Re: Scoring Question
 
I'm pretty confident all three of those cases result in unprocessed litter.
Edit: someone with a manual feel free to correct/cite that.

Hallry 04-01-2015 22:10
Re: Scoring Question
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squillo (Post 1421568)
If litter is in a recycling container, but the container is not scored (e.g., the container is on the floor and not on any scored tote(s)), is the litter "unprocessed litter"? Or does it simply not count as anything at all?

If a litter is in the grasp of a robot at the "ending bell," is it unprocessed litter? Or simply not scored at all?

Same for litter resting on top of totes (scored or unscored) - not on the floor, but also not in or on a scored container. Unprocessed, or ignored?
All good questions for the official Q&A, which opens on Wednesday.

EricH 04-01-2015 22:11
Re: Scoring Question
 
It's +4 points to your opponent, because you have Litter that is not in a Scored Recycling Container, and is not fully within the Landfill.

AdamStockton 04-01-2015 22:13
Re: Scoring Question
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squillo (Post 1421568)
Same for litter resting on top of totes (scored or unscored) - not on the floor, but also not in or on a scored container. Unprocessed, or ignored?
See figure 3-6 on page 22 of the manual (and the description on page 23). It appears that litter can be on top of the totes and still count as in the landfill (ex. A).

EricH 04-01-2015 22:22
Re: Scoring Question
 
No need for Q&A.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manual, Section 3.1.2.3, LITTER subsection
Each LITTER can be scored in one (1) of three (3) ways:
A. in or on a scored RECYCLING CONTAINER,
B. in the Red or Blue LANDFILL ZONE, or
C. as UNPROCESSED LITTER on either the Red or Blue side of the FIELD.

When a scored RECYCLING CONTAINER fully supports a LITTER, that LITTER is considered scored in or on that RECYCLING CONTAINER, as demonstrated in Figure 3-5 Parts A and B. A maximum of one (1) LITTER will be scored per RECYCLING CONTAINER.

Additionally, LITTER is considered scored in a LANDFILL ZONE when it is fully contained within a LANDFILL ZONE, with each ALLIANCE credited for the LITTER scored in the LANDFILL ZONE on their side of the FIELD.[Picture reference removed]

Finally, ALLIANCES earn an UNPROCESSED LITTER Bonus for each LITTER that is fully contained by the opposite side of the FIELD and not scored in the LANDFILL ZONE or scored in a RECYCLING CONTAINER.
Note that last item: If it's fully on one side of the field, and it's not otherwise scored (which involves being either in a SCORED Recycling Container or in the Landfill), it's Unprocessed by definition, and thus 4 points for the other alliance.

Prediction on Q&A answer if asked: Per [the section I just quoted], this is Unprocessed Litter.


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