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bscharles 06-01-2015 11:22

Will Your Team Use Bumpers This Year?
 
Since bumpers are not required this year, and have been somewhat of a headache for teams in the past, I am curious to see what teams plan on doing, if anything, in regards to protecting their robots. Will the lack of defense or interaction with the opposing alliance make you decide that bumpers are unnecessary? Or will you still try to add a little padding between your robot and the surrounding game pieces, walls, and other alliance members, but maybe in a different way than in previous years?

cmrnpizzo14 06-01-2015 11:23

Re: Will Your Team Use Bumpers This Year?
 
Maybe set this as a poll? I think it will be easier to see the results.

EDIT: Cool, thanks!!

excel2474 06-01-2015 11:33

Re: Will Your Team Use Bumpers This Year?
 
Yes, we're going to use these:

http://www.robopromo.net/product_p/rp_llpb.htm

catacon 06-01-2015 11:54

Re: Will Your Team Use Bumpers This Year?
 
1444 has been dreaming of the day bumpers would no longer be required. Our dream has finally come true.

JesseK 06-01-2015 12:02

Re: Will Your Team Use Bumpers This Year?
 
1885 will not use bumpers.

However, since we're still using aluminum axles in a WCD setup, we will make wheel guards out of 2x1 to protect our axles from inadvertent clipping of a tote because the totes don't like to move on carpet. This has nothing to do with driver skill or other robots and everything to do with how a bent axle would impact our performance.

Thad House 06-01-2015 12:04

Re: Will Your Team Use Bumpers This Year?
 
Teams that either were around before 2006 or have mentors from before 2006 will know exactly what competition will be like without bumpers. And teams back then worked perfectly fine without them. You just have to make sure to build your frame strong, probably stronger then in previous years.

catacon 06-01-2015 12:07

Re: Will Your Team Use Bumpers This Year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 1422725)
However, since we're still using aluminum axles in a WCD setup, we will make wheel guards out of 2x1 to protect our axles from inadvertent clipping of a tote because the totes don't like to move on carpet. This has nothing to do with driver skill or other robots and everything to do with how a bent axle would impact our performance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad House (Post 1422728)
Teams that either were around before 2006 or have mentors from before 2006 will know exactly what competition will be like without bumpers. And teams back then worked perfectly fine without them. You just have to make sure to build your frame strong, probably stronger then in previous years.

This.

bscharles 06-01-2015 12:24

Re: Will Your Team Use Bumpers This Year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by excel2474 (Post 1422704)
Yes, we're going to use these:

http://www.robopromo.net/product_p/rp_llpb.htm

Are you planning on making them easily removable as in previous years, or more more permanently attached to your robot frame?

excel2474 06-01-2015 12:56

Re: Will Your Team Use Bumpers This Year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bscharles (Post 1422736)
Are you planning on making them easily removable as in previous years, or more more permanently attached to your robot frame?

We'll probably use a bracket and make it permanent, but velcro will work pretty well too.

Redo91 06-01-2015 12:57

Re: Will Your Team Use Bumpers This Year?
 
I hope everyone sees the blue box under R4.

JesseK 06-01-2015 13:00

Re: Will Your Team Use Bumpers This Year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by catacon (Post 1422732)
This.

I don't understand what a frame has to do with axle material choice? It is as much or more effort and weight to make a direct-drive WCP steel axle than it is to make rivet-on wheel guards.

catacon 06-01-2015 13:26

Re: Will Your Team Use Bumpers This Year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 1422767)
I don't understand what a frame has to do with axle material choice? It is as much or more effort and weight to make a direct-drive WCP steel axle than it is to make rivet-on wheel guards.

I don't really have an opinion on axle materials. I was agreeing with the notion that wheel guards are advantageous in bumperless games. Every bumperless robot that we have designed has at least some aluminum structure protecting the wheels. We have been in many severe collisions with these robots without any effect on the drivetrains.

JesseK 06-01-2015 13:30

Re: Will Your Team Use Bumpers This Year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by catacon (Post 1422782)
I don't really have an opinion on axle materials. I was agreeing with the notion that wheel guards are advantageous in bumperless games. Every bumperless robot that we have designed has at least some aluminum structure protecting the wheels. We have been in many severe collisions with these robots without any effect on the drivetrains.

Ah, I thought I may have misread. Cheers :D

IndySam 06-01-2015 13:48

Re: Will Your Team Use Bumpers This Year?
 
NO!

The_ShamWOW88 06-01-2015 13:49

Re: Will Your Team Use Bumpers This Year?
 
Nope, no way, no how...


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