Need 2014 Driver Station Software
 

Could anyone please send me the installation or zip file of the driver station software for 2014? The links on NI seem to be down, namely this one. My team will be in your eternal debt.

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See if this will help you, it should have the downloads that you need

https://decibel.ni.com/content/docs/DOC-34731

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That document has been updated for 2015. But in the comments, I saw the Update Suite 6.0 on there, but when I ran it, it didn't actually install the old driver station. That's why I was kind of hoping someone would just zip up their executable (I'm like 80% sure they're portable like that).

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Oh sorry I miss read. If you are just trying to run old code/robot you should be able to switch to the old protocols. see below

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huh, and I'm assuming that it still uses the old image (v52) and the same static IPs as last year? Also, the code is in Java, which I'm seeing in some threads that IDEs don't support for v57.

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If anyone has it I would also like the 2014 driver station.

We tried using the new driver station but our code is also Java and we just can't get it to work. Everything is fine except the robot code will not connect.

Thanks

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Here is the 2014 Driver Station.
You will probably be queried as to where the .dll's are.
They are in the data folder.

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Thanks :D

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Hi there, if anyone is reading this, we're looking for the whole 2014 update suite. We need the imaging tool, etc. Thank you

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Could you explain exactly what I need to do to run last year's robot from the new driver station software (I'm not sure what the arrow in your image means)? We tried today and didn't know what we had to change...then we were afraid to update the drivers' station laptop for fear of losing the ability to drive the '14 bot.

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The switch freak is pointing to lets the 2015 DS interface with the 2014 FMS. My understanding is the 2015 will not talk to the 2014 robots. Apparently the switch that allowed it to run 2014 comms in the Beta testing was dropped. My programmer tells me the 2014 DS will run on the 2015 system. I have not actually seen how he tested this. Maybe somebody more versed in Lab View will comment. (The DS is a labview program regardless of what language your robot is programed in.)

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The 2014 and 2015 DS have different EXE names. I do not have both installed on my laptop, and I don't control the installers, so I can't say much about what that will do, but the programs can coexist with no problem. Each has its own set of DLLs and a reference to a LV runtime.

The 2015 DS can actually control 4 slot cRIOs that have been updated to 2015 image. Those cRIOs will then speak the 2015 protocol.

The 2015 DS and roboRIO can also speak the old protocol, but this was turned off during the beta in order to avoid misconfiguration.

So in order to better answer your question, do you intend to update last year's robot to this years development tools and image? Is it a 4-slot?

If not, I'd lean towards zipping the old c:\Program Files\FRC Driver Station folder, then installing the new one, then unzipping the old one into a folder something like 2014 FRC Driver Station.

Greg McKaskle

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Boy that is really going to confuse the Demo drivers. 8 slot, 4 slot 2014, 4 slot 2015. :) For the hard headed Java programmers, Can you put the 2015 image on the 4 slots? Presumably you would still use the 2014 net-bean plugins? Or we just shouldn't go there?

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Sounds like a job for documentation. Or at least a checklist.

As for Java dependencies. I'm not the right person to comment on that. I know that the cRIO will still need Squawk JVM and that the language changed enough that the libraries are not that compatible. I would guess that a new 2015 image on a cRIO 4 slot will still run fine with older Java tools, but I'd wait for a beta team or WPI student to confirm.

Greg McKaskle

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Only LabVIEW supports the v57 image. Java teams should continue using last year's development tools and image.

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The old Java libraries would have to be updated to support the new Network Communications API to read joysticks and tele-op / auto mode selections and the like (the same way LabVIEW for the cRIO was). Other than that it should work with the Net Beans tools.

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I think our team is going to go with use the 2014 image on the Crios. I don't think I am even going to hint the programers that there are other options. (We keep them in a dark place with the mushrooms.);)

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We program in Labview, and I really don't want to have both 2014 and 2015 driver station software on our DS laptop. What do I need to do?

Do I have to re-deploy my 2014 robot code from the 2015 software?
CAN I re-deploy 2014 from 2015, or would I have to re-write the program in 2015 Labview?
Will I need to re-image first?
Is there anything else?

To me this seems like the kind of ordinary functionality that tons of teams would need to have, to continue demonstrating their old robots this year...if it is so difficult, then why is there not a step by step instruction provided with the title "How to run your old robots from the new driver station software"

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If you're using a 4-slot cRIO, you can put the proper image on it, program it with this year's LabVIEW, and control it with this year's Driver Station.

The 2014 and 2015 Driver Station programs coexist without conflict (though I think the 2015 installer erases the contents of the folder, so you have to install the 2014 one last).

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And the 2014 installer overwrites the 2015 dashboard so you should rename the 2015 dashboard first if you want to keep it.

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We are using a 4 slot cRIO....
Can I open and deploy the program that we wrote in 2014 Labview with 2015 Labview, or do we need to re-write last year's program in the new software?

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You shouldn't need to rewrite all of your code, but you should look at the indices in Begin and update them to be zero based. There may be some other areas such as the compressor that you need to look at.

Work on a copy of the code, and you should find out within a few minutes whether you will have issues or not.

Greg McKaskle

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Thanks for the answer...but that was what I was hoping was not the case. We have only one programmer, who is learning the task as she goes and is doing great, but programming is definitely our weakness this year. If we have to go through our previous year's program to make changes that will end up being a project for after this season. I was really hoping to be able to demonstrate last year's robot throughout build season and competition season along side this year's practice bot.

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There is a solution that doesn't require any code change. Don't change any of the tools used for the robot and everything still works.

If you have already installed over the DS, zip up the 2015 DS directory, install 2014, rename it, and unzip the 2015 one.

Unless there is just a ton of code from 2014, it probably won't take but a few hours to upgrade to 2015, but this gives your team options.

Greg McKaskle