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SquishyIce 13-01-2015 10:31

Talon SRX Data Port Header
 
I've been trying to find a header that would work with the ribbon cable that connects to the data port header on the SRX, and I think I've found it: http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...C10K-ND/755176 Will this part work? If not, could someone direct me to one that will?

marshall 13-01-2015 10:33

Re: Talon SRX Data Port Header
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SquishyIce (Post 1427289)
I've been trying to find a header that would work with the ribbon cable that connects to the data port header on the SRX, and I think I've found it: http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...C10K-ND/755176 Will this part work? If not, could someone direct me to one that will?

That part will not work. That is a .1" spaced header. The Talon SRX uses a .05" spaced header. I don't have a link handy to a part but I can find one later if someone doesn't beat me to it.

Also, don't forget your team's digikey voucher if you order anything from them.

EDIT:

Links:

I think these are all valid but double check them. It kind of depends on what you want. The .05 pitch makes these things tiny.
http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...627-ND/3883661
http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...629-ND/3883266
http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...5-5-ND/2264346
http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...389-ND/2264370
http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...383-ND/2264364

SquishyIce 13-01-2015 11:01

Re: Talon SRX Data Port Header
 
Thanks a ton! I've been looking at making a custom breakout for the SRX, and depending on the path forward, that female header may come in very handy. Thanks again for your help!

nixiebunny 16-01-2015 16:14

Re: Talon SRX Data Port Header
 
I am also thinking of making a different (better) SRX encoder breakout board.

Here's what it needs:

A 5 pin 0.1" header to match the Cui AMT103-V pinout, including Index

Two 2 pin 0.1" headers for the limit switches

A 3 pin 0.1" header for the analog pot sensor

A set of mounting screws so you can stick it to the robot!

Who wants some?

nixiebunny 16-01-2015 17:38

Re: Talon SRX Data Port Header
 
I think a breakout board on the Talon might make more sense than having it at the end of a ribbon cable. A nice connector is this one:

Digikey 609-3754-ND

The board wants to be designed so that it is centered on the Talon when the plug is centered in the header.

dellagd 16-01-2015 19:19

Re: Talon SRX Data Port Header
 
Speaking of the data port, the product description lists the Talon as being able to communicate over CAN and PWM, but also SPI and UART. Has anyone seen anything regarding the SPI and UART? The terms don't show up in the manuals.

picklednerd 16-01-2015 19:39

Re: Talon SRX Data Port Header
 
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Our team actually felt the exact same way about the current Talon breakouts; we aren't fans of the ribbon cables. We just finished designing two Talon boards, a breakout and a 5v to 3.3v analog converter, that mount directly to the Talon SRX. I've attached the white paper we've written, which includes all of the parts links on Digikey. If you'd like Gerber files or the Altium project files, I'd be happy to send them.

Ether 16-01-2015 19:47

Re: Talon SRX Data Port Header
 
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Originally Posted by picklednerd (Post 1429402)
We just finished designing two Talon boards, a breakout and a 5v to 3.3v analog converter, that mount directly to the Talon SRX.

Are you saying you will be mounting the Talon to a PCB board instead of mounting it to a heat-sink surface?



SquishyIce 16-01-2015 22:55

Re: Talon SRX Data Port Header
 
Interesting design ideas... We were toying with the idea of mounting directly to the talon, but we went with (ironically) more ribbon cables. We basically feed all the data ribbon cables into one board that puts all the signals into a 34-pin ribbon cable which goes out to a board closer to the actual encoders and whatnot to reduce on messing with getting the encoder wires all the way back. I may end up adapting picklenerd's design into a board that supports multiple talons...I hadn't thought of using a jumper to switch between 5v and 3.3v for the quad. encoders. Maybe I'll revise our current design if we get a bit of pocket change, we JUST ordered boards tonight.

marshall 17-01-2015 00:40

Re: Talon SRX Data Port Header
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1429403)
Are you saying you will be mounting the Talon to a PCB board instead of mounting it to a heat-sink surface?



The breakout will be mounted to the top of the Talon. The Talon will be mounted to the chassis. At least, that is the current plan.

Ether 17-01-2015 00:58

Re: Talon SRX Data Port Header
 
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Originally Posted by marshall (Post 1429489)
The Talon will be mounted to the chassis.

Don't forget the TIM. It's explicitly permitted in the 2015 rules.



wireties 17-01-2015 04:18

Re: Talon SRX Data Port Header
 
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something like this? needs mtg holes though...

wireties 17-01-2015 09:11

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better version...

marshall 17-01-2015 09:23

Re: Talon SRX Data Port Header
 
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Originally Posted by wireties (Post 1429545)
better version...

Interesting. I'm digging the convergent evolution with these designs.

Are you at all worried about shorting on the bottom side of your board?

TheOtherGuy 21-01-2015 15:40

Re: Talon SRX Data Port Header
 
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We're about to order some advanced circuits "barebones" compatible boards (bottom traces/pins steer clear of SRX body). We're going exclusively with AMT102V encoders, so the pinout /voltages matches those. I'll post back with info on how they turn out...

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